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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
#239433
22/11/2006 01:43
22/11/2006 01:43
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This would not be cheap i imagine as it would mean the unichip would have to really be able to control them at the higher boost levels as well as getting the inlet manifold machined to fit them perfectly snug?
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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22/11/2006 02:05
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*sigh*
he unichip is not the be all and end all tool for the coupe's! If you were going to control 10 injectors you would certainly not use a unichip to control them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We would be talking standalone ECU, not some crappy piggy back box to do the injection.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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22/11/2006 02:30
22/11/2006 02:30
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I was only suggestnig Unichip or the likes. Deep breathes begbie....
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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22/11/2006 05:37
22/11/2006 05:37
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it's strange that everyone is wetting their pants about live mapping when there still seems to be some problems
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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22/11/2006 06:01
22/11/2006 06:01
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......just still be cautious chaps.... UNTIL a coop can run on the OEM ECU, witout a fcuk-box in between altering the signals, you WILL always have problems, as the OEM ECU is very very smart at adapting to out of tolerance values, ALL the uni-chip can EVER do is alter a known quantity of signals, NOT understand how to run the engine, that is what the ECU does even, I am looking cautiously at the moment, as the coop is very much in its infancy with live mapping of the ECU, this just takes time, guinea pigs & some honest R&D on the rolling road ....remember the days when people reckoned it would take "specialists" to wire in Jap Apexi stuff to our cars ? Always seemed out of the realm, now they are as common as busted bottom ends
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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25/11/2006 22:43
25/11/2006 22:43
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After getting my new clutch installed by Barbz yesterday (thanks mate) and racking up a few hundred miles to bed it in, I took a trip to Perfect Touch for a live mapping session this morning. From the mapping point of view, everything seemed to go well, a nice bunch of lads and a professional setup. However, my results were held back a little, as I couldn't hold boost that well at high revs, 1.3 bar was dropping to 1.05bar at the redline (costing me around 20BHP, the problem also seemed to lost me some low down grunt). Hopefully this will be solved simply by tightening the actuator. I'll post up the graphs tomorrow, however, for now here's how I did:
Petrol: 95RON
Mods: Apexi Cone Filter GT28RSR Turbo H&S 5-stud 3" Downpipe Milltek race cat Milltek 2.5" cat back PA FMIC GReddy Profec B Spec II
Results: .98bar dropping to .9bar - 292.2BHP, 245.6ft/lb 1.3bar dropping to 1.05bar, 317.7BHP, 287.5 ft/lb
Hopefully when I get the actuator sorted, I'll be getting 340 at 1.3bar. Rob also said he couldn't advance the ignition as far as on other coops due to the 95RON (I think mine was 9 degrees compared to 15). I forgot to ask Rob what the at wheels figure was!
Last edited by davidub; 25/11/2006 22:46.
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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25/11/2006 22:59
25/11/2006 22:59
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317 at 1.05 bar is good!!! You got the graph there??
Ross
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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25/11/2006 23:15
25/11/2006 23:15
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317 at 1.05 bar is good!!! You got the graph there??
Ross
Yep, can't post it till tommorow though - I've got a long trip home first
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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25/11/2006 23:16
25/11/2006 23:16
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Oh right. Be interesting to see exactly what Live Mapping does.
Ross
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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25/11/2006 23:36
25/11/2006 23:36
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Oh right. Be interesting to see exactly what Live Mapping does.
Ross
All they do is adjust the fueling and ignition i.e. kind of like a custom GTEC, except they're using their maps tailored to your car! They adjusted mine to 11.5 AFR midrange and leaned it out towards the redline and advanced the ignition by 9 degrees (I think). In my case, the Fiat chip was way too rich and the GTEC1 too lean in the midrange, I see it more of a peace of mind mod!
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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26/11/2006 00:05
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If it's not a rude question, how much did your live map cost?
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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26/11/2006 09:25
26/11/2006 09:25
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I've been having some problems
absolutely shattered to hear this , Jimbo.
hope it can be sorted.
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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26/11/2006 17:46
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Graphs posted on this thread
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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26/11/2006 22:19
26/11/2006 22:19
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Jeez for those mods thats dam good! I dont have a cat but my spec is near enough the same David. Did you do hollyhead don leary(sorry for bad spelling ) Long drive as well i agree. you coulda stopped over at mine if it had been another time to break up the journey but maybe another time hey would be cool to see a southern irish coopster
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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26/11/2006 22:26
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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27/11/2006 00:10
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They are good for that Should get a blueflame like mine The shell one along the M56 shoulda been open and one or two further down usually are along teh A55 ah well, tip for next time, print off map with shell stations on route using autoroute and working out where abouts you will start to run low and fill up near there
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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27/11/2006 21:05
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having lumpy idle/cut-out problems this lunchtime, hopefully just a coincidence
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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27/11/2006 21:09
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Yes please Jimbo im still keeping my eye on this
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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27/11/2006 21:12
27/11/2006 21:12
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Damn David fairplay thats one hell of a run!!
Has anyone else had problems like this? how did it feel on the drive home?
Iain
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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27/11/2006 21:38
27/11/2006 21:38
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I had no problems driving home, although that was 300 miles at reasonable (ahem...) pace. Mine isn't lurching, it just cut out a few times, flickered between 500-800 rpm, cut out and the battery light came on It might just be coincidence (ICV might need a clean) as my mapping should have been fairly straight forward.
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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28/11/2006 23:20
28/11/2006 23:20
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Ok, I drove back over to PT today and had a chat with Rob about my little cutting out problem. He's adjusted the map on the unichip so its not altering anything at all on closed trottle, I will wait a few days before I post up the results as it took a few days for it to start cutting out last time. The jerking on lift off however is much better now so I'm quite hopeful this is the problem solved. I did learn that mine is just controlled by the unichip and not a half and half as I originally thought. Rob was a top bloke as usual and hopefully will be joining us on some track days in future lookng forward to that.
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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28/11/2006 23:36
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I've just got off the phone to Rob and I'm booked in for Friday 8th. Let's see what the 3" turbo back and aquamist does.
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Re: Live Mapping- The Results
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29/11/2006 02:02
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How many hours mapping do you think that will take Ken? What is the estimated cost?
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