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Right I'm no whizz with music. The Stereo I have wont play Cd's as it jumps around. Added a lead to hook up my Creative Zen but the sound is terrible.

Would SD card be a better way for me to go? or are they just a gimmick at the moment?

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gimmick i think. just get a good hu and a good hookup for your zen

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I looked at some in Halfrauds the other day and they looked quite good. Some of the Sony units have memory built into the facias, so you can just plug it into your pc usb port and drag music straight over from you pc.

Check this out

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1 gig is not that much though. you could buy a jvc giga dvd HU that will read, funnily enough, dvd's full of MP3's theres 4.5 gig and just as easy to burn a dvd if you need to hook a computer up to your HU
nice idea though

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The JVC unit in my Fiesta uses an SD memory card and it's brilliant.
It's been in the car for about a year and a half with no problems.
It's a lot easier to just take it out and transfer music onto than copying discs all the time.
I don't think it's a gimmick at all, it's very useful and handy.
Definately worth buying one in my opinion.

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Once you have burnt a dvd you would not have to do it again though prob a good option if you already have sd sticks lying about. i only have CF, MS and Pro Duo, so it would be another thing to buy.
i personally find my pod the best medium to hook up to. 25 quid for a cable to plug into my HU via AUX input, hardwired charger too (although this does give off alternator buz when charging ) and fantastic sound quality and 20gig space.
back to the slot, better to have one than not i suppose

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get one with a usb dongle and buy yourself a 40GB mini hard drive ... not too expensive, justkenwood.co.uk were doing bundle deals

edit: maybe something like this

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I managed to get a blaupunkt nashville DAB down to less than 180 squids from halfrauds - had to phone around as they are discontinuing it in their shops - although widely available elsewhere. This even included a free dab ariel and fitting. It has and SD card slot (although i havent had chance to use it yet as am too busy creaming over the cd quality radio). plus for about 90 clams you can get a bluetooth unit which you can also plug in a usb too - so expansion not a problem... ALSO (and no I dont work for blaupunkt) they do a tidy IR remote that goes on the sterring wheel for about 35 squiddles.

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Right I'm no whizz with music. The Stereo I have wont play Cd's as it jumps around. Added a lead to hook up my Creative Zen but the sound is terrible.

Would SD card be a better way for me to go? or are they just a gimmick at the moment?




it all depends what you want and what your happy with really if you want good sound quality all sd/mp3/hard drive etc should be avoided like the plague as the sq is shight, if you want gadgets then there cool, just think what you want, sort a budget out, and shop around for the best deal.

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why would the SQ be shite? so long as the encoding is done a 192kbs or higher then it should be fine. Not sure if it would come up to audiophile standard using MP3's but with my pod in place i cannot tell the difference to a well ripped cd and the original. i do think all these sd holes, usb dongles etc will be adding to the price where better sound quality could be had for the same or less money. not sure the HDD would work with the usb dongled face plates. in fact i know they wont. both units are slave units, so they could not transfer the data IIRC.

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Another option is some of the head units that can read a dvd full of MP3 / WMA AAC.

Thats 4.7 gigs a disc, which is nice.

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Right I'm no whizz with music. The Stereo I have wont play Cd's as it jumps around. Added a lead to hook up my Creative Zen but the sound is terrible.

Would SD card be a better way for me to go? or are they just a gimmick at the moment?




it all depends what you want and what your happy with really if you want good sound quality all sd/mp3/hard drive etc should be avoided like the plague as the sq is shight, if you want gadgets then there cool, just think what you want, sort a budget out, and shop around for the best deal.




listening to music in a car - sq is going to be shi*te anyway!

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Another option is some of the head units that can read a dvd full of MP3 / WMA AAC.

Thats 4.7 gigs a disc, which is nice.




mentioned this above mate. IIRC only jvc have these HU's. Called GIGA DVD, or it used to be.

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I looked at some in Halfrauds the other day and they looked quite good. Some of the Sony units have memory built into the facias, so you can just plug it into your pc usb port and drag music straight over from you pc.

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Now I like this. Just download from you PC onto head Unit. Perfect

Where's Bockers? He's the Whizz with In car Entertainment

4 Speakers, New Stereo and Sound Proofing need doing

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why would the SQ be shite? so long as the encoding is done a 192kbs or higher then it should be fine. Not sure if it would come up to audiophile standard using MP3's but with my pod in place i cannot tell the difference to a well ripped cd and the original.




lol enough said my friend.

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hey bock you have a fan

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Present and correct Sir Graham I am going for the one of these next month as i want the BT handsfree function. With mp3 disks jumping should not be an issue either as the player caches the tracks. The 1GP is great too IMHO.

I like Sony stuff and have cd changes and steering wheel controls so making a change to another manufacturer is expensive.

Go for it

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The only thing I'm not sure about is the transfer. 500 songs is great but recorded at only 64kbps. Wont that be a bit Shit sounding?

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more like 200 at 128kbps as the minimum but suggest 192 to sound acceptable and close to car CD realy.


I would go for This DVD unit. With Dual layer disks you will get 8mb per disk enough for pleant of tunes at 192 kbps or higher.

John

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http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/3439.html
i would prefer this dvd unit, but very subjective

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Now I did tell you that I'm useless when it comes to stereos.

both the ones you have said requires you to download your music from a PC to a DVD. Correct?

If that is true and I'm having trouble with my CD's jumping wont I still have the same trouble?

Also, How do you know what songs you got on it? Does it work like an Ipod?

Dowsn't take much for me to be confused

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well i have found my jvc does not jump as much as my original HU even with the addition of coilovers, but the options above for you still might skip so long as the music you put onto the dvd is labeled correctly, tagged, it will display titles just like a cd you then scroll through the folders of music like folders on a PC drive/dvd/cd. as the SD cards are so cheap these days maybe one of those units would be best for you, and a 4gig SD stick or something i am sure you would be more than happy with this sort of arrangement. OR can you buy rca cables that connect to your zen? this would be best i think, connecting the zen properly via rca cables to a new HU

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get a mini hard disk with a usb port!

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Now I did tell you that I'm useless when it comes to stereos.

both the ones you have said requires you to download your music from a PC to a DVD. Correct?

If that is true and I'm having trouble with my CD's jumping wont I still have the same trouble?

Also, How do you know what songs you got on it? Does it work like an Ipod?

Dowsn't take much for me to be confused




Yes you have to download onto a disk (cd or DVD depending on model) but unlike older CD units the player does not read as it plays but reads ahead too (cacheing). Therfore if a bump in the road interups the reading there is enough of the music stored on the player memory not to interupt the sound.

The player read ID3 tags, these are the tags that ripping software (such as Window Media Player or Itunes) add to MP3. tracks. you can then browse on the player by album artist etc.

How about a better alternaive If you have a Sony CD player why not buy an Ipod (even a cheaper older generation one) and one of these adapters . You can then control your ipod via the stereo and all the trac info will also be displayed on the sony head unit. It plugs into the CD changer socket of the sony unit. It fools the headunit into thinking that the ipod is a cd changer

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bockers you surprise me how awful that would sound, how about buying an alpine cda 7990 with prob the best anti vibration mechanism you can get, then buy proper cd`s the original studio ddd ones lol or even an alpine dvi 9990r that will even play you beloved mp3and wma etc as they come with no speaker output,[no onboard amps rightly so imop] in the pre out stage only,4v preout which can be boosted easily to eight,[no interference] with copper chassis and researched patented quality components [no silly gimmick circuits] producing a far superior dynamic signal and frequency response they optimise all sound and will enable you to open your ears to real sound stage lol of course this comes at a price as the best usually does lol

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bockers you surprise me how awful that would sound, how about buying an alpine cda 7990 with prob the best anti vibration mechanism you can get, then buy proper cd`s the original studio ddd ones lol or even an alpine dvi 9990r that will even play you beloved mp3and wma etc as they come with no speaker output,[no onboard amps rightly so imop] in the pre out stage only,4v preout which can be boosted easily to eight,[no interference] with copper chassis and researched patented quality components [no silly gimmick circuits] producing a far superior dynamic signal and frequency response they optimise all sound and will enable you to open your ears to real sound stage lol of course this comes at a price as the best usually does lol




If you want the best sound stay at home Cars are not the best listening booths. If however you are like me, not an audiophile, but like to listen to music and want a wide choice available (without a fist full of disks) then MP3 is the format of choice. I choose Sony because i have a 10 disk changer and 6 disk Minidisk changer that will not work, unfortunately with and Alpine HU

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no my friend but theres a few unreal alpine changers out there wich will do every thing, just look at the picture of your dog, poor thing he used to be a punk rocker but alass after listening to the sex pistols in mp3 format he`s lost all his excitement just like the sq.lol

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Poor Graham, looks like the mule wants you to remortgage your home for this new stereo!

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My system at the moment has no rear speakers attached. Can't play CD's as they jump. Radio never keeps a station because of the poor reception. I paid 20 quid or so for a lead to attach my Zen but sounds so tiny.

All I'm after is a stereo that will play my music to a reasonable level but wont cost a bomb. It's a car for christ sake.

SD Card looks good. Simply download my music. Slot in and play. No jumping etc. With 1 gig I should get a good amount of songs on it at a good bitrate.
Only drawback is paying extra for the cards

I liked the Sony one with the facia that plugs into my PC. Trouble is recording at 64kbps is shit

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you can record in 192kbs and store them but you will just have fewer tunes. Still worth considering.

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Arrrrrr is that what it looks like ajg
graham like I said in the first place get your self out and about and have a look and a listen work a budget out and shop around your probs with your reception and disk jumping are an easy fix and there are plenty of great little units out there at the end of the day its what your happy with that matters not what me or any one else suggests mate

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Davidud suggested this web page

That looks ideal and at a good price.£179.95

Thoughts please

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it seems spot on for what you want graham even better for £99 check out http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/312296/art/kenwood/cd-mp3-usb-car-radio-kdc.html

hope this helps, super cheap price to

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Mule

The £179.95 is with the Hard Drive included.

Kenwood are a good make? or at least they were

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That looks ideal and at a good price.£179.95

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I have the 7534 version, the only thing I would say is that you don't get a preview of the directory you're about to play, before you play it, so if you fill up the 40GB it can make navigation a little awkward .... although, if you're driving, I don't think this is too much of an issue as you shouldn't be staring at a screen!

As I said, I have the 7534 (so a model a little up on the line) and the SQ with OE speakers is more than acceptable ... & I would be considered an audiofool when it comes to my system indoors!

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The £179.95 is with the Hard Drive included.

Kenwood are a good make? or at least they were




you'll probably find a hard drive for cheaper than £79.95 if u search around (dabs etc.)

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yea I no was suggesting maybe a starter block etc thought you might want to add on as you go etc just an option of course, yea Kenwood always maintained decent sound quality on there head units with decent gadgets at an affordable price

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Ok Ive now got it down to 3

1/JVC

I presume any SD Card will do as you can get 2mb and 4mb now.

2/ Sony

Not sure about recordong though. 200 tracks at 128Kbps ??

3/ Kenwood

Just not sure were I would put Hard Drive

Opinions please

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3/ Kenwood

Just not sure were I would put Hard Drive

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The dongle comes out into the passenger footwell, I just put the hard drive under the floor mat (it's very thin), alternatively you could put it in the glovebox.

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Just a thought - my understanding is that in a few years time FM will become a thing of the past and Digital radio will be all that is available (like the TV signal) - I hope thats right coz otherwise i am expecting a lot of messages correcting me!

Noel

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Arrrrrr is that what it looks like ajg




comment was just teasing Can the kenny use any HDD then? if so do what the mule says and get the hu. if any unpowered HDD will do the la LaCie 60 gig usb powered hdd can be bought for about 60 quid

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you can get a 1gb sd card from www.ebuyer.co.uk for about £11 delivered, cheap as chips!
probably get them cheaper still imported from far east from ebay...

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AJG. I don't know what a bloody HU is

Told you I'm crap when it comes to stereos. Need everything spelt out for me

I did warn you

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HU = Head Unit i.e. the Clarion standard centre consol located Radio Cassette

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sorry, i have a really bad habit of shortening sentences and words, using slang...

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I wanted something to store my music on a couple of years ago in my Alfa GTA. I had the Bose sound system but didn't want to have 100 CDs in the car. In the end I bought an IPod and dension ICE link which replaced the CD Autochanger. The sound was superb. Now I've got my Coupe I got the ICE-Link FM unit. Its not quite as good as the autochanger link but still pretty good. Certainly good enough for the car - lets face it there's a lot of background noise so you won't notice the difference on the move. Got my last one for £25 on ebay. Dension in the US also do a stereo with a built in hard disk which looks interesting but a bit pricey.

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