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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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18/10/2006 19:23
18/10/2006 19:23
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It is relevent as ND only use Ensign
Not sure this is correct as i went through ND and my policy is with Highway. Feeling a bit concerned now given the comments about Highway above.
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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18/10/2006 21:15
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Brokers couldnt survive if they used just one company. Therefore they have access to many insurers - each one of those insurers targets a specific market and rates accordingly. The brokers who are offering the most favourable rates for us (high risk cars, younger drivers, mods etc...) will most likely have 'delegated authority' enabling them to effectively write premiums as they see fit (within reason as they are accountable to the insurers). Companies such as Ensign, Highway, Equity etc... have agreements with certain brokers, ND, Greenlight, AFlux etc... and allow them this delegated authority, however each agreement will be different. ND may have it with Ensign for example but perhaps Greenlight does not (although they may have access to standard Ensign policies). Flux may have it with Equity but ND may not etc etc... With regard to bad experiences with insurers each will have upset somebody somewhere along the line, usually administrative, waiting long time periods etc... but that is just the nature of the beast, banks are no different and we have all had to wait too long for a meal to arrive in a restaurant or waited for a bus that didnt come when it should have - inevitable and inconvenient but part of the process unfortunately. As long as you are honest when disclosing facts at inception then when it does go wrong you should end up with the right result - whoever your insurer is - you may not feel it fair, but that doesnt make it wrong. Dealt with Ensign, Equity, Highway etc etc for many years in the past, they were around along time before I was and will no doubt be around along time after - my point is dont be concerened about them - the inconveniences only arise due the 'human' side, inexperience, low wages and disinterest - it is only a job to them at the end of the day and you are only 1 of 000's they have to deal with. To summise - I am becoming my dad!!! ![](/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif)
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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18/10/2006 21:48
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Brokers couldnt survive if they used just one company.
Therefore they have access to many insurers - each one of those insurers targets a specific market and rates accordingly.
The brokers who are offering the most favourable rates for us (high risk cars, younger drivers, mods etc...) will most likely have 'delegated authority' enabling them to effectively write premiums as they see fit (within reason as they are accountable to the insurers). Companies such as Ensign, Highway, Equity etc... have agreements with certain brokers, ND, Greenlight, AFlux etc... and allow them this delegated authority, however each agreement will be different. ND may have it with Ensign for example but perhaps Greenlight does not (although they may have access to standard Ensign policies). Flux may have it with Equity but ND may not etc etc...
With regard to bad experiences with insurers each will have upset somebody somewhere along the line, usually administrative, waiting long time periods etc... but that is just the nature of the beast, banks are no different and we have all had to wait too long for a meal to arrive in a restaurant or waited for a bus that didnt come when it should have - inevitable and inconvenient but part of the process unfortunately.
As long as you are honest when disclosing facts at inception then when it does go wrong you should end up with the right result - whoever your insurer is - you may not feel it fair, but that doesnt make it wrong.
Dealt with Ensign, Equity, Highway etc etc for many years in the past, they were around along time before I was and will no doubt be around along time after - my point is dont be concerened about them - the inconveniences only arise due the 'human' side, inexperience, low wages and disinterest - it is only a job to them at the end of the day and you are only 1 of 000's they have to deal with.
To summise -
I am becoming my dad!!! ![](/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif)
Couldn't of put it better myself ![](/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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19/10/2006 01:59
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With regard to bad experiences with insurers each will have upset somebody somewhere along the line, usually administrative, waiting long time periods etc... but that is just the nature of the beast, banks are no different and we have all had to wait too long for a meal to arrive in a restaurant or waited for a bus that didnt come when it should have - inevitable and inconvenient but part of the process unfortunately.
Its not the odd occasion, its happens everytime and it gets hidden behind the excuse of "thats the way it works" like it or lump it.
Its simply not acceptable IMO for a broker (ND in this case) to refuse to refund your money because "they haven't been refunded by the insurance company". I don't care if this is 'industry standard', time to shake up the industry.
In paying the broker, not the insurance company I dont remember signing an agreement that I would provide a credit facility for them.
Even more importantly brokers need to state up front if a policy is not transferable to another vehicle.
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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19/10/2006 05:22
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Some valid points cosmo for sure - im not on their side in any way - just trying to help people understand the system. Unfortunately the form you/we sign is a contract with the Insurer, not the broker. Our proposal forms are headed with the insurers name, their questions, their terms etc... We sign the form, supposedly having read and understood every word - who does? Not me! They trade on our greed and eagerness for the cheapest quote - f*$k the service at that stage. It doesnt matter if you pay the cheapest or most expensive rate - you will get the same service - hopefully efficient, more likely not. Unfortunately, they have to generalise and because of the type of 'market' they are dealing with, high risk cars, drivers etc... they are in a position of power over us, without a doubt. It is a necessary evil to us but a business to them. The same way you and I and the companies that pay our salaries operate (to make money) buy charging a premium for our expertese, service and sometimes just because we can! They are no different. Could you when you took your policy out have stated to ND that on this partucular date in September you would be changing to an M3? No, same as I couldnt have told Flux that mine would get totalled and that I want to now insure a van under my specialist vehicle policy - you can guess where they told me where to go, so yes I lose out financially but thats the game, their business, thats one way they make money in order to pay us out when we need them (eventually) ![](/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif) It sucks and they have us by the short n curlys. Cosmo, hope that didnt sound patronising in any way - not meant to be, I agree with your sentiment entirely. ![](/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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20/10/2006 16:12
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first alternative for me, strut brace, baileys dv, stainless exhaust, chip - £465 including 2nd driver AND 3 fairly new points on the license...
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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25/10/2006 22:20
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Big thanks to Noel Dazely for insuring me, Age 24, 1year NCB Chip, exhaust k&n for.......... £718
After some other insurers wanted well in excess of 1k i thought this was pretty good
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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25/10/2006 22:20
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oh, thats fully comp as well...
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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25/10/2006 22:51
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Noel Dazely miraculously managed to reduce my premium - my RENEWAL premium, that is - with them by almost £200 this year when I pointed out that three Forum members, all with very different ages/locations/mod levels had all had quotes for exactly the same amount (£597) within days of each other.....
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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26/10/2006 00:30
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This is why people are confused and angered about the premiums they pay, the returns they get, changes they can or cant make - it is because the brokers use delegated authority to write our premiums and this can be as simple as 'pick a premium' - one they feel they can get away with.
At renewal they should look at the 'market rate' for your risk and offer accordingly. The 'market rate' may be £7/800 and the above post just illustrates how this system works - they can ignore the market and write a premium substantially lower in order to gain or retain your business. So there is no way that 'we' can make sense of it because every situation is specific due to the way the premiums are written initially.
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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03/11/2006 00:25
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Just had a qoute from Greenlight for £557, fully comprehensive. I am 30 yrs old with full NCD. All mods declared: DV26, K&N Cone, Gtech1, S/S rear can & Full body kit. ![](/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif) Should I consider this to be a good quotation, given that I was paying only £309 fully comp with Admiral - no Gtech or bodykit. ![](/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif) Am waiting for Noel Dazely to provide a quote too. Will post this here when i have it. In the meantime, can anyone suggest alternative companies to try? ![](/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif)
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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03/11/2006 02:09
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Try A Flux and tell them the best rate you have had and who its with.
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Re: Noel Dazely V Greenlight
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03/11/2006 02:42
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Cheers Mark. ![](/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif) Once I've got ND's quote, I'll give them a shout.
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