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Re: Push Button Start
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04/01/2006 21:01
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there are some people on the forum who had built their own starter butten but dunno who.. But it is possible..
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Re: Push Button Start
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04/01/2006 21:15
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I think it was Fishy Dave who fitted this to his first coup - he also had a brief 'how to' if I recall correctly.
Maybe worth PM'ing him to find out?
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 01:37
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Yup, I had one, but all my info and pms from others who have helped me were lost in the old forum. Edited for lousy spelling
Last edited by Fishy_Dave; 05/01/2006 08:40.
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 02:25
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I think Mavric fitted one too!
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 08:06
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I'd be tempted to have a go at this if it's not too hard. I would definitely put it near the gearstick in front of the drivers window switch tho.
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 08:21
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I know little about cars, as i am about to show, but how does it work in regards to the code key and the immoboliser?
I mean if all u have to do is push a button whats stopping somone from breaking into the car and driving off ?
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 08:23
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You still have to use the key
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 08:24
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Quite tempted myself. And just when I thought I'd finished buying parts for the Coupé. Does it EVER end??
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 08:43
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Quite tempted myself. And just when I thought I'd finished buying parts for the Coupé.
Does it EVER end??
No, it doesn't
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 20:42
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Theres an LE starter button on ebay,with the relay aswell,it should be easier to fit should it not ? Clicky
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Re: Push Button Start
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05/01/2006 20:53
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Be aware that that one on ebay doesn't look like it has the cover on it (the red button has a cover that goes over it, silver in my case, with a black surround for the hole in the dash). Worth checking before you bid.
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Re: Push Button Start
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06/01/2006 01:11
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I was considering this for a while it can be fitted in cigarette lighter position in 16vt next to gear stick or much the same position in a 20vt. also note the honda button is quite long.
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Re: Push Button Start
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06/01/2006 04:15
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I think Mavric fitted one too!
The s2000 kit will include a relay and a wiring diagram.
see link for pic fitted.
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Re: Push Button Start
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06/01/2006 04:40
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Ahh see now you have got me now. Was all prepared to fix it in the same place as the LE/Plus cars and now looking again it does look where you have put it. Dilemas, dilemas JOhn
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Re: Push Button Start
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06/01/2006 07:24
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It took me about 1 1/2 hours to fit mine in the same place as Mavric. The hard bit is joining the wires at the back of the ignition switch. Thw S2000 comes with most of the bits you need, if you want isolate the button with the engine running you will need another relay connected to one of the alternator wires. the below info came from the old forum but not sure who wrote it.
" I have just installed a Starter Button, not the Honda S2000 one though. However, it should be not much different to mine. I did what Sean mentioned, with regard to getting access to the wires from the ignition barrel. It sounds like you have removed the top and bottom covers from the steering wheel. With a small screwdriver I prised off the bottom of the two connectors going to the ignition. On my 20v Turbo, the wires were Orange, Orange/white, Blue. Blue/White. The top connector is the one you want, so prise it away from the block. You may need to get your hand on the far side to apply pressure while you push with screwdriver on the near side. Sounds tough, but mine came away quite easily. With the connector removed, unravel the protective covering and tape, to reveal the wires. The large RED lead is obviously the +12v supply straight from Battery. The smaller RED with black stripes is the cable connected to the Starter Motor solenoid. I snipped each wire about 5-6 inches from the connector. I used Bullet connectors to re-connect each cable, with a new wire running from each one The +12v needs to be reconnected to make the supply to the Ignition barrel (hope I'm not teaching anyone to suck eggs here ?). The RED/BLACK cable can be connected or not, it is up to you. If you do connect, it will give the ability of using the ignition to start the engine, as well as the Starter button. I did it this way, just in case the button or relay failed at some stage. Your relay, should be a 30AMP car relay, like mine ? I situated the relay, in the area at the far right of the dash, where you can pull the end panel off. It has other relays in there, and the place where the tweeter sits. I found it sat there quite snugly. You need to connect the newly attached RED wire (+12volt from Battery) to the plug numbered 30 on relay. Connect the new wire from the RED/BLACK cable (going to Starter motor) to plug 87. I connected plug 86 to GROUND. That leaves the Switched Live from your Starter Button to connect to plug 85 of the relay. Not sure how your S2000 button looks at the back, but you will need to connect a switched +12 volts (I took mine from the ORANGE/BLUE wire going to either one of the electric window switches). Connect the wire from appropriate pin on the starter button to plug 85 of the relay. When you press the Starter button, it will send the +12 volts, taken from electric window switch, and route to plug 85 of relay. As plug 86 is earthed, it will activate the coil in the relay, and will throw the switch in the relay, to connect plug 30 to plug 87. Voila, +12 volts to Starter motor, and car starts a treat. "
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Re: Push Button Start
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06/01/2006 07:29
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There's a Honda S2000 starter button fitted by the previous owner of my car. It's works, I'm happy!! The car is a standard 1998 model. You just put the key in, turn to the stop and press the button. I love winding up people who say "oh my new car has a starter button" and I say " My Coupe started the trend back to starter buttons 8 years ago" It's in the same place as the LE/Plus starter button and the chrome ring around it goes so well with the alloy heater/speedo rings!! I'll put some pictures of it up tomorrow so you can what it looks like. And before you ask, NO i'm not going to take it off and see how it's wired up The previous owner told me he got a auto-electrics guy to fit it.
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Re: Push Button Start
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08/01/2006 00:43
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Ok.. some pics of a Honda starter button in a Coupe Edited : Which I can't put up on here! go into photobucket.com and search for Darmtb and the pics are there!!
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Re: Push Button Start
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08/01/2006 01:25
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Re: Push Button Start
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08/01/2006 01:46
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Re: Push Button Start
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08/01/2006 05:25
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Hey darmtb that looks really and I suppose what makes it even better for you is that you didn't have to pay for it.
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Re: Push Button Start
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08/01/2006 19:38
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I may have Daves guide to fitting at home I will have a look when I get back.
I have checked high and low but me no findy
Darmtb - that looks a neat install also when you post your pics you don't have to say photobucket.com you can call it whatever you want
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Re: Push Button Start
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11/01/2006 07:53
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Sorry I have come in late on this thread, but does using the key and a button, not defeat the point of a fancy push start button? I thought this replaced the ignition key, but you still have to disarm the immobilser the car with your fob? - as you can tell I dont know much about car electrics.
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Re: Push Button Start
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11/01/2006 08:02
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Ahh OK - is this the same on a fezza then? I guess so.
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Re: Push Button Start
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11/01/2006 08:40
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Ahh OK - is this the same on a fezza then? I guess so.
Not sure, I'll go and check the wifes car in the garage
JOhn
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Re: Push Button Start
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11/01/2006 10:00
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darmtb I'll post in the Southern Ireland spotting thread about meets. I could get a good look at that push button start of yours.
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Re: Push Button Start
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11/01/2006 17:08
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Yes, the starter button is utterly pointless indeed! But it looks nice, is fun to press and will impress other people
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Re: Push Button Start
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12/01/2006 04:14
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As the current user of Dave's old starter button, I'd say it's a great touch. I always reach for a starter button now when driving other cars.
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Re: Push Button Start
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12/01/2006 23:04
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I might have to get one of these sometime - does anyone know of any major things you can do wrong installing one yourself?
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 00:06
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I might have to get one of these sometime - does anyone know of any major things you can do wrong installing one yourself?
Looks easy enough now I have the kit. You must wire in a relay but that is the only complex bit. Depends how comfortable you are with electrics. The hairy bit for me is drilling the whole for the thing
I'll be doing mine this weekend and will write a guide. I will also do installs in exchange for beer tokens.
JOhn
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 00:44
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I might have to get one of these sometime - does anyone know of any major things you can do wrong installing one yourself?
Looks easy enough now I have the kit. You must wire in a relay but that is the only complex bit. Depends how comfortable you are with electrics. The hairy bit for me is drilling the whole for the thing
I'll be doing mine this weekend and will write a guide. I will also do installs in exchange for beer tokens.
JOhn
wiring is dead simple, it's getting your fingers in where you need to add the wires at the ignition block that's fiddly. ref the hole, just make sure you drill a smaller than you need hole rather than try and get it spot on in the first place.
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 00:52
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I will also do installs in exchange for beer tokens.
Remind me to take a look at yours on the mini meet, maybe you could do mine when you look at my boost guage - 2 for the price of 1
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 02:32
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I'm not worried about the electrics bit - just locating where everything goes + what could happen with the code unit etc. if you manage to get it wrong.
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 03:32
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I'm not worried about the electrics bit - just locating where everything goes + what could happen with the code unit etc. if you manage to get it wrong.
Suba, there is not much to go wrong. You wont't upset the code. All you are doing realy is adding another switch to the one in the ignition barrel. This mod does not bypass the car code system. You still need to key in the ignition (to disarm the imobiliser) and ro activate the push start button.
If it was a matter of messing with the imobiliser etc I would not go near it.
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 18:08
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Goody - might have to do this then! I've been toying with the idea for a while....
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 19:59
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Be aware that that one on ebay doesn't look like it has the cover on it (the red button has a cover that goes over it, silver in my case, with a black surround for the hole in the dash). Worth checking before you bid.
Red button on LE, silver on Plus and [6]
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 21:52
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Why - well gives me the chance to waste more time playing with the car!
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 23:30
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c2d - you're missing the point. Starter buttons are cool
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Re: Push Button Start
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13/01/2006 23:50
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Always good when the M.O.T. tester thinks ha has broke your car and sheepishly comes to ask if you have had problems starting it recently! My 4 year old daughter loves it as well - Can I push the button dad? Just a nice little extra
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Re: Push Button Start
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16/01/2006 08:24
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Thanks v666 and darmtb for the tips hints and photos. All done now and it looks Yes I know it's childish but I love it I have maintained the key start as well, but now wish I hadn't. QUite an easy job but time consuming. JOhn
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Re: Push Button Start
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17/01/2006 04:01
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i have a toad alarm with R/C/L will a push start button effect this? as when i open the car if i dont start it within 30 secs the immob cuts in...will it make a difference with a push start button?
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