The country isn't falling apart - it's actually in better shape than most.

No one knows what will happen if we vote out, but we know where we are if we stay and this country is a mess.

I'm on the fence - so am ready to be swayed to vote either way.

You're right. Unfortunately it appears far too many people are swayed by Daily Mail style media coverage

Come to West Yorkshire, you'll soon change your mind. The whole county is being destroyed.
Too many people are swayed BOTH WAYS by total crap, nonsense and lies. This whole campaign is full of nonsense. Even sensible people are starting to talk like loonies.

Come to West Yorkshire, you'll soon change your mind. The whole county is being destroyed.

Yes the UK is doing better than most, so it can suvive on its own. So you've answered one thing.

How's it being destroyed? come visit, take a walk around. There are nutters raping school girls, opposing nutters shooting MP's...

That's correct, I'm not on anyone side, like you all are, in out, migration is good bad in different I don't care all I want is change, the populus to wake up. It's a changing world, migration is good and bad, a trade union Is good and bad.

America, they have different rules and laws and are plauged by them (look at all the shootings) France are stuck in pre Maggie days when it comes to labour, China, well most people accept China is bent (but look how STRONG they are)!

It's a world wide issue, not local, not national it's international, small single minded comments done work. The two threads on here are so narrow to an individuals pov it hurts.

I don't know what's best, no one else does either, if you think you do then you are a total fool cos you can't see the future and don't have the slightest insight into the real workings of the world.

It bores me stupid, it really does.

Barnacles long post summed it up for me about how much better xyz was, so much synacism, so much "I know better than you" well for once I can honestly say, no you don't. Neither do I, no one does.

Vote for what you think is right, hope the outcome is what you want.

I'm nervous as hell, in and who knows - there could be mass migration like you've never seen and the likes of which could crush this small island. Lest we forget all the tolls paid for being strong and doing well.

We could leave, but then who cares about 60 million people.on a small island when there is a whole world to trade with??

All the arguments I've heard are hollow and weak, not one has shouted out, with foundation in either direction. I know what I see. I see a country being lead down the garden path by a fool making promises in return for power. Now he realises what he's unleashed. The end of the UK? End of Europe? Pretty big steak for the pomp of one who wished to be elected, made a promise to the electorate for a referendum.

MRS, I don't have to explain all, I said come visit, come live away from your isolated life in Inverness, come see Bradford, Halifax, Keighley. See what their history says and where they are now and I'll show you proud, prosperous places that have fallen into the gutter.

And you tell this to't youth of today and they don't believe you!

You don't have to explain anything, BM, but if you want anyone to respect what you say (not, apparently a foregone conclusion) then it certainly helps.

I grew up in Yorkshire in the 70s and 80s and watched manufacturing industry and mining die difficult deaths for a variety of reasons. I would argue that the loss of these, and in particular the textiles industry, did more to alter the face of West Yorks than most other factors in modern times. This is where your "once proud" cities lost out. And, apart from enjoying the faint sound of brass bands in the background, like a Yorkshire Tea advert, I can't see what your point is.
As you might (or might not) have been saying, this has little or nothing to do with the debate about Europe. Nor, incidentally, does the thankfully rare, but nevertheless nasty, practice of preying on vulnerable girls.

So, no, you don't have to explain yourself to MRS or anyone else, but if you don't, it does make what you are saying a bit unclear. That's the point of explaining.

the whole debate has turned into spin and scaremongering.

If you want facts, I encourage you again to listen to "More or Less" on the Radio iPlayer - it's very clear and seemingly unbiased. It goes to the root of the numbers. Don't listen to the spin - get the facts. Being properly informed is really a duty before you vote.

If you want facts, I encourage you again to listen to "More or Less" on the Radio iPlayer - it's very clear and seemingly unbiased. It goes to the root of the numbers. Don't listen to the spin - get the facts. Being properly informed is really a duty before you vote.

I shall listen this afternoon, be nice to hear some truth!

Thank you

I listened to the first half of the Referendum omnibus this afternoon. Very well presented and it seemed equally ready to dismiss or challenge claims from either side. Worth an hour of anyone's time.

I think there should be a third vote, the "shake it all about" vote. I couldn't stand either side gaining victory, I am hoping for a draw.

If our decision is 'stay in' then parliament will probably vote on making that irrevocable forever.

Why on earth would they do that? And how could it ever be enforceable? They wouldn't and it isn't.

The Commonwealth is an entirely different set up and, with the Queen as the head of it, it's probably got more political union than you imagine. There are also fees and no free trade zone. I'm not sure why it's is relevant to this discussion though I seem to remember it being called a "eurosceptic fantasy" or similar

You'll have to explain how it can be irrevocable - what law in the UK was ever thus?

Too funny on the Commonwealth - have you seen which countries are in it and the records of some of them? It's mostly just a British Empire Old Boys club

Why is it that Leavers speak in caps-lock?

And btw, I don't want to be a pedant but I think you mean 'smell the coffee', smelling the roses indicates that all is well and our relationship with the EU is a wonderful thing.

The Commonwealth is irrelevant.