Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?

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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532271 31/03/2015 16:54 31/03/2015 16:54
B Big_Muzzie Unregistered
Big_Muzzie Unregistered B	so 2 19 mm bars is app, 22.5mm equivalent? 24mm is some serious uplift in stiffness!!

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532282 31/03/2015 18:31 31/03/2015 18:31
N nissansteve Unregistered
nissansteve Unregistered N	Get it done and report findings. You do find this a lot with car forums. When someone brings up an idea outside the "way it's always been done" folks get all get up about it. That's why most of our cars follow the same paths. It becomes written in stone that this mod and and that mod are the only ones to do. I'm sure I've done something similar with a rear roll bar before but I can't remember on what, it was probably an old datsun many years ago.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532289 31/03/2015 18:48 31/03/2015 18:48
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone J Jimbo Je suis un Coupé
Jimbo Je suis un Coupé J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone	I'm pretty sure the standard bars and Eibach bar is solid Nigel, it's only the later stuff that's tube section, I'm sure you'd be able to tell by the weight. A tube has greater resistance to flexing than a solid bar. Last edited by Jimbo; 31/03/2015 18:50.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532295 31/03/2015 19:33 31/03/2015 19:33
B Big_Muzzie Unregistered
Big_Muzzie Unregistered B	Just do.It man!!!

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532297 31/03/2015 19:56 31/03/2015 19:56
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	I'll make solid brackets with 2 19mm holes and split them and add a bolt hole in the middle to tighten them back up. Can anyone donate an old rear ARB for me to take the angle grinder to?

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532307 31/03/2015 20:44 31/03/2015 20:44
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Originally Posted By: fiatphil Can anyone donate an old rear ARB for me to take the angle grinder to? I may have one lying around - never sold one, so you can have it for free

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: Nigel] #1532312 31/03/2015 21:11 31/03/2015 21:11
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	Originally Posted By: Nigel Originally Posted By: fiatphil Can anyone donate an old rear ARB for me to take the angle grinder to? I may have one lying around - never sold one, so you can have it for free Very kind of you Nigel. Just let me know and I'll swing by and get it or drop in when I'm in Brum next.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532378 01/04/2015 14:46 01/04/2015 14:46
N Nobby Unregistered
Nobby Unregistered N	Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450. I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532380 01/04/2015 14:50 01/04/2015 14:50
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	I've done this in the past on my Saab 9-3 and 9000 track car. Big improvement on the 9-3.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532412 01/04/2015 18:34 01/04/2015 18:34
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone J Jimbo Je suis un Coupé
Jimbo Je suis un Coupé J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone	Originally Posted By: Nobby Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450. I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though. Is yours not DRC equipped Chris?

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532476 01/04/2015 22:51 01/04/2015 22:51
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,057 Southsea G Gunzi Club member 189, Former Club President
Gunzi Club member 189, Former Club President Je suis un Coupé G Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,057 Southsea	I look forward to pictures, a report and maybe a how to!

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: Jimbo] #1532519 02/04/2015 09:30 02/04/2015 09:30
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Nobby Unregistered N	Originally Posted By: Jimbo Originally Posted By: Nobby Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450. I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though. Is yours not DRC equipped Chris? Yep DRC. But mine has been replaced numerous times already and the next time it happens I might just stick some Bilsteins on. I do have a full spare set though.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532547 02/04/2015 13:55 02/04/2015 13:55
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone J Jimbo Je suis un Coupé
Jimbo Je suis un Coupé J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone	PM sent Chris.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532614 02/04/2015 23:57 02/04/2015 23:57
B Big_Muzzie Unregistered
Big_Muzzie Unregistered B	Originally Posted By: Nobby Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450. I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though. There's a reason for this...... As said, just do it, at worst you can reverse it If it goes as nigel says as it goes all.stiff. VaX saab chassis was a pile of shit and needed lots of work to get it right, so a solid rear can't make them any worse.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532728 04/04/2015 10:38 04/04/2015 10:38
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Phil - I have a fairly shabby rear ARB for you - I've brought it home, so you can pick it up whenever you fancy dropping in

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532734 04/04/2015 12:32 04/04/2015 12:32
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,725 London kj16v My life on the forum
kj16v My life on the forum Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,725 London	Originally Posted By: nissansteve Get it done and report findings. You do find this a lot with car forums. When someone brings up an idea outside the "way it's always been done" folks get all get up about it. That's why most of our cars follow the same paths. It becomes written in stone that this mod and and that mod are the only ones to do. I'm sure I've done something similar with a rear roll bar before but I can't remember on what, it was probably an old datsun many years ago. ^^ ^^ Yep and you end up with this forum: Cookie-cutter cars with identical mods and tuning. Do it Phil, I'm also interested. Uprating the rear ARB has been on my to-do list for years and this could spur me to deal with it finally!

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: Nigel] #1532760 04/04/2015 17:10 04/04/2015 17:10
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	Originally Posted By: Nigel Phil - I have a fairly shabby rear ARB for you - I've brought it home, so you can pick it up whenever you fancy dropping in Brilliant Nigel. I'll arrange to swing by and pick it up as soon add I'm able. I've cut some steel ready to make some custom solid hangers. Just got to drill them 19mm and split them.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1532769 04/04/2015 17:49 04/04/2015 17:49
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Originally Posted By: fiatphil I've cut some steel ready to make some custom solid hangers. Just got to drill them 19mm and split them. Take a look at the mounting design - you may get away with simple steel plates and slightly longer mounting bolts Feel free to drop round and I'll show you what I mean

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1534489 19/04/2015 21:20 19/04/2015 21:20
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,057 Southsea G Gunzi Club member 189, Former Club President
Gunzi Club member 189, Former Club President Je suis un Coupé G Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,057 Southsea	Have you had a chance to get any further with this Phil?

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1534492 19/04/2015 21:26 19/04/2015 21:26
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	No mate, not with fitting FMIC and sorting fuel pump wiring, getting live mapped and rolling roaded. Brakes are going to be sorted first then strut brace too.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1534511 19/04/2015 22:57 19/04/2015 22:57
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,057 Southsea G Gunzi Club member 189, Former Club President
Gunzi Club member 189, Former Club President Je suis un Coupé G Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,057 Southsea	Fair enough, I'll let you off...!

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: Gunzi] #1534513 19/04/2015 22:59 19/04/2015 22:59
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	Originally Posted By: Gunzi Fair enough, I'll let you off...! Cheers Geez. I promise I'll get around to it though.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1537547 11/05/2015 08:06 11/05/2015 08:06
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,194 Göteborg, Sweden Freddan72 Competition Level
Freddan72 Competition Level Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,194 Göteborg, Sweden	Any news Phil? Coupé Fiat 20V Turbo Plus 1999, T19 Mitsubishi turbo https://youtu.be/O9qrLj3Ap00 Now FCP Stage3!

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: Freddan72] #1537808 13/05/2015 10:21 13/05/2015 10:21
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	Originally Posted By: Freddan72 Any news Phil? Not yet pal. Been a bit hectic of late and on my Holidays at the moment. I'll get on it when I get back.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1537813 13/05/2015 11:08 13/05/2015 11:08
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	ARB is still in my shed waiting for you Phil

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1537845 13/05/2015 16:59 13/05/2015 16:59
N nissansteve Unregistered
nissansteve Unregistered N	If doubling up using a coupe roll bar is too much, could you not use a bravo bar? The bars on my marea are very skinny. Might just add the right amount of stiff and not be too much.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: Nigel] #1538423 18/05/2015 18:32 18/05/2015 18:32
F fiatphil Unregistered
fiatphil Unregistered F	Originally Posted By: Nigel ARB is still in my shed waiting for you Phil I'm on it mate. Soon as I get a free evening or weekend I'll fly over.

Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB? [Re: ] #1538442 18/05/2015 20:40 18/05/2015 20:40
N nissansteve Unregistered
nissansteve Unregistered N	Looking on eper there are three different bars for the rear of the marea, the version three bar shares the same part number as the coupe. I'm pretty sure my marea weekend has the version three fitted and my saloon has a thinner one.

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