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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 16:54
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Big_Muzzie
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so 2 19 mm bars is app, 22.5mm equivalent?
24mm is some serious uplift in stiffness!!
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 18:31
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Get it done and report findings. You do find this a lot with car forums. When someone brings up an idea outside the "way it's always been done" folks get all get up about it. That's why most of our cars follow the same paths. It becomes written in stone that this mod and and that mod are the only ones to do.
I'm sure I've done something similar with a rear roll bar before but I can't remember on what, it was probably an old datsun many years ago.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 18:48
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I'm pretty sure the standard bars and Eibach bar is solid Nigel, it's only the later stuff that's tube section, I'm sure you'd be able to tell by the weight. A tube has greater resistance to flexing than a solid bar.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 19:33
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 19:56
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I'll make solid brackets with 2 19mm holes and split them and add a bolt hole in the middle to tighten them back up. Can anyone donate an old rear ARB for me to take the angle grinder to?
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 20:44
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Can anyone donate an old rear ARB for me to take the angle grinder to? I may have one lying around - never sold one, so you can have it for free
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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31/03/2015 21:11
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Can anyone donate an old rear ARB for me to take the angle grinder to? I may have one lying around - never sold one, so you can have it for free Very kind of you Nigel. Just let me know and I'll swing by and get it or drop in when I'm in Brum next.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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01/04/2015 14:46
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Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450.
I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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01/04/2015 14:50
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I've done this in the past on my Saab 9-3 and 9000 track car. Big improvement on the 9-3.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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01/04/2015 18:34
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Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450.
I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though. Is yours not DRC equipped Chris?
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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02/04/2015 09:30
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Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450.
I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though. Is yours not DRC equipped Chris? Yep DRC. But mine has been replaced numerous times already and the next time it happens I might just stick some Bilsteins on. I do have a full spare set though.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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02/04/2015 13:55
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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02/04/2015 23:57
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Must admit I toyed with the idea of this a while ago. There aren't many options for my audi believe it or not - H&R or Hotchkis (from the US) and they both work out around £450.
I do have a couple of standard ones in the garage though. There's a reason for this...... As said, just do it, at worst you can reverse it If it goes as nigel says as it goes all.stiff. VaX saab chassis was a pile of shit and needed lots of work to get it right, so a solid rear can't make them any worse.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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04/04/2015 12:32
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Get it done and report findings. You do find this a lot with car forums. When someone brings up an idea outside the "way it's always been done" folks get all get up about it. That's why most of our cars follow the same paths. It becomes written in stone that this mod and and that mod are the only ones to do.
I'm sure I've done something similar with a rear roll bar before but I can't remember on what, it was probably an old datsun many years ago. ^^ ![yes yes](/forum/images/graemlins/default/yes.gif) ^^ Yep and you end up with this forum: Cookie-cutter cars with identical mods and tuning. Do it Phil, I'm also interested. Uprating the rear ARB has been on my to-do list for years and this could spur me to deal with it finally!
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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04/04/2015 17:10
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Phil - I have a fairly shabby rear ARB for you - I've brought it home, so you can pick it up whenever you fancy dropping in Brilliant Nigel. I'll arrange to swing by and pick it up as soon add I'm able. I've cut some steel ready to make some custom solid hangers. Just got to drill them 19mm and split them.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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04/04/2015 17:49
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I've cut some steel ready to make some custom solid hangers. Just got to drill them 19mm and split them. Take a look at the mounting design - you may get away with simple steel plates and slightly longer mounting bolts Feel free to drop round and I'll show you what I mean
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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19/04/2015 21:26
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No mate, not with fitting FMIC and sorting fuel pump wiring, getting live mapped and rolling roaded. Brakes are going to be sorted first then strut brace too.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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19/04/2015 22:59
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Fair enough, I'll let you off...! Cheers Geez. I promise I'll get around to it though.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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13/05/2015 10:21
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Any news Phil? ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Not yet pal. Been a bit hectic of late and on my Holidays at the moment. I'll get on it when I get back.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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13/05/2015 16:59
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nissansteve
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If doubling up using a coupe roll bar is too much, could you not use a bravo bar? The bars on my marea are very skinny. Might just add the right amount of stiff and not be too much.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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18/05/2015 18:32
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fiatphil
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ARB is still in my shed waiting for you Phil ![wink wink](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) I'm on it mate. Soon as I get a free evening or weekend I'll fly over.
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Re: Is it possible to piggy back the rear ARB?
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18/05/2015 20:40
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Looking on eper there are three different bars for the rear of the marea, the version three bar shares the same part number as the coupe. I'm pretty sure my marea weekend has the version three fitted and my saloon has a thinner one.
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