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Re: Japanese GP
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09/10/2014 06:32
09/10/2014 06:32
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MeanRedSpider
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Waved yellows before during and after the incident then Green once entirely clear of where the impact was. I can't see why that is not the obvious way of controlling speed through a danger zone. How can you let a driver accelerate away at the point where there may be a car/recovery vehicle and potentially an injured driver? I still don't understand. You can't accelerate until you are past the green flag and therefore the incident. How does being even further down the road help? It wouldn't have helped this or any other incident a jot. As Jim says, the drivers need to respond to the original yellow flags. I could possible understand it if you said they needed to wave yellow flags at marshal stations even further BEFORE the incident but after is pointless.
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Re: Japanese GP
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09/10/2014 08:53
09/10/2014 08:53
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Big_Muzzie
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Double yellows should mean more than caution, if the next step is red then there should be a limit imposed. No more than x% of race v-max for the section, x being >50% and race v-max being the quickest time set through the yellow section.
After all we are debating drivers safety for the sake of the drivers and non paid volunteers who help these drivers for the love of motor sport.
On the above point MRS is totally correct, cars do not spin off and go against the direction of travel, it's not possible, so why would you want to extend the danger zone after the event?
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Re: Japanese GP
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#1511027
09/10/2014 12:27
09/10/2014 12:27
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Nello
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Clearly the current flag system does not work... Perez: "Those situations are very difficult," he said. "You expect the tractor to come quickly but in my opinion yellow flags were not enough to clear up the accident because of the situation on the track at that moment." He said that drivers slowed down as little as possible even for double yellow flags. "You know you have to show a lift of the throttle to the FIA," Perez said. "But if we are honest we know we want to lift as little as possible and go as fast as possible.
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Re: Japanese GP
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#1511031
09/10/2014 13:03
09/10/2014 13:03
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Jim_Clennell
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OK, my previous answer was a bit simplistic; responsibility for how fast the drivers go past yellow flags of any sort is shared between the drivers themselves, their engineers, the team principals, the GPDA and the FIA. Do read the entry in Gary Hartstein's blog entitled "Before the reform frenzy starts" and specifically the section about flag discipline. It couldn't be more clear. In my opinion, anyway.
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