Nutjob:Completely insane or crazy person. Someone who has totally lost the plot. You may not agree with U K I P but using words like nut job is inaccurate and at best childish .

Nutjob: One who thinks gay marriage causes floods, or that Lenny Henry should be sent "back to a black country" , perhaps even "Bongo Bongo Land" That women are worthless and worth less or even more worrying someone who thinks that the person to get rid of immigrants, get the better of the public schoolboy politicians and stop the bankers getting out of control is a public school educated immigrant banker.

Is it acceptable to want Lenny Henry sent somewhere they think he's funny?

Got to love this story - even [cloud9] admit they mainly appeal to the dimwitted

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Well i see you have been reading all the negative press that has been thrown at U k i p leading up to the local elections . Yes the people who said this are wrong and they should have been vetted better standing on their behalf . Its like saying all tories and labour polititions are expenses cheats some of who have gone to jail .
The comment about Lenny Henry is racist and its up to the authorities to deal concerned . I remember back in 2012 a local labour Mp to me Diane Abbott made a racist tweet and nearly lost her job over it and was in mid interview and got a call from the party leader Millibland to apologise .Also a certain tory MP Alan Clark made a similar comment "bongo bongo land " in the past .Another Tory councillor John Cherry resigns over 'openly racist language' after saying 'there are certain nationalities where they are uncertain what this hard work is all about' .Another Labour MP Ian Lavery, MP for Wansbeck,in 'racist' photo .
Liberal democrate makes racist comment http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/lib-dem-anti-islam-candidate/ .
My point is the internet is full of idiots making racist comments . In my local elections on thursday they had no U k i p canidates on the ballot paper .

Islam isn't a race.

That's because some stupid has set the swear-bot to relace UK1P with .

Correction then the liberal democrate candidate is an islamaphobe
1. (Psychology) hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture

I voted, though not for UK1P.

Nor for the BNP, the Christian Peoples Alliance, nor the English Democrats.

Should (god forbid) any of the UK1P candidates be elected for my region, they can suspect regular emails with regard how well they are representing my views and interests in the European Parliament. I suspect I will be disappointed.


Reading their 8 page manifesto for the EU elections (that's 8 pages, with a full picture on the front and the back and another 3 in the middle), they don't appear, beyond pulling us out of the EU, to stand for anything.

So, a vote for them is a vote for what exactly? As a public school educated, ex-merchant banker, one might assume that his political instincts will be somewhere to the right of the Tories.
With the removal of the evil social protections forced on us by the evil EU, which presumably will all be rolled back ,so that's equal pay & rights, decent holiday pay, maternity leave, employee protections all gone.

Guessing the rest of the EU will merrily carry on without us, and they will me more than in their rights to tell us to get stuffed should we ask for a trade deal to be allowed to sell all these lovely things we make, leaving us where? Trading with the Russians, Chinese or the Americans. Yep there is nothing to go wrong there is there?


Feel massively let down by all 3 established parties in refusing to actually engage them in a serious political debate, leaving Farage to wander around with his personal news crews to allow him to show what a man-of-the-people-smoking-pint-drinking-salt-of-the-earth-top-bloke he is, rather than the foreigner-employing, 5th generation immigrant that he is.

Of course the young, educated and cultured didn't buy into it.


If they get even a sniff of proper power, do you think the Scot's will allow us all to move up there??

Better.

I don't think anyone could deny that there is probably the odd member in the other parties who have contentious views, but they seem to be a lot more prevalent in UKIP.

I can't imagine why though.

If you read my post again its fact not hersay . And you have stats to back that statement up or it that your opinion .All the racist comments made by the other three parties are freely availible online .

Eh??? I was agreeing with you at first when I said...



And then I went on to say...



Which I'm not claiming to be a fact (take not of the highlight word and its relevance in this sentence).

In not going to sit here and trawl through everything that every politician has ever said. I'll let the media do that and I'll choose which source of media to trust.

Point taken .I am not here to defend uk1p its just everytime i hear a wanna be elected official /elected official make a racist comment i remember it from any party .

No that's their whole point. We won't be able to move anywhere.

What I find annoying is that The UK independence Party NEVER, ever explain how they would leave the EU. All we hear is that they would like to have an arrangement similar to those had by Norway or Switzerland. Well BOTH those countries still do PAY into the EU. And both still HAVE to allow FREE MOVEMENT OF LABOUR too! They both must make any products they wish to export to the EU conform to ALL those nasty EU regulations too. Nether of them though has any say in EU regulation. So, they both seem to have to endure all the things that a certain "single Issue" party in the UK wishes not to have

An independent UK sounds great, to some. It seems to bring back memories of empire, Rule Britania and all that. Most of us realise that everywhere else has moved on though. There is no empire and our colonial brothers have moved on and signed deals with new partners, so they don't need us. We were once a great nation but we are no more, two big wars and the end of empire saw to that.

Sadly in the future we may need the EU membership far more than it needs us. I'm sure if we left getting back in would be even more expensive and on much worse terms, if we could even get in.

Thankfully I don't think that our nation has as many idiots as the single issue party would like to think. And yes they do think we are idiots. They have offered something, a sound bite, but have not shown anything to suggest they could deliver, they wouldn't be the first party to have their leader say "I'm Sorry."

Clearly MOST people who voted for them didn't do so because they saw any great political insight, they voted because they thought it a giggle. People are dissatisfied with our crop of politicians & the fact they can't stand up for anything. Take "Red" Ed this week. On one hand he said "Immigration is good for the nation" and then straight after "immigration needs to be controlled" FFS that is so middle of the road it's a shock not to see a white line painted on his suit. Mr Camergoon is no better with his bloody endless "Hard Working People" rubbish. What the heck does that mean? Is he talking to me? Then there is the other "I'm Sorry" Muppet. He made a deal with the Tories, a deal that has just about killed off his party.

So a vote for Mr "I'm a normal bloke, just like you, honest guv" was made, by many to give those others a bloody nose. One just hopes it will wake the others up and make them start to realise that if they don't nail their colours to the mast then we will all be buggered!

Sadly I feel they may not yet have learnt the lesson

This is a thoughtful article on the situation in British politics...

channel 4 blog

Interesting piece that, I would suggest that we could face more coalition governments in the future as no one party appears to be able to gain enough clear support. Only question is who would be in it?

Why would we need the EU in the future or for what reason rather than your hersay . France and Germany are going throught the same process as us and people in their countries want less ties with europe or out all together . Who knows what would happen if the UK left the Eu . We would still trade with europe as they need us as much as we need them .Who would buy peugeots, bmws , Vws and Audis . The Uk buys the largest amount of Ferraris in europe .There is a lot at stake with other countries if the UKK was to leave . The Eu may collaspe and alot of greedy MEPs would suffer .
"Clearly MOST people who voted for them didn't do so because they saw any great political insight, they voted because they thought it a giggle. People are dissatisfied with our crop of politicians & the fact they can't stand up for anything."
And this statement is based on your opinion not facts ?

The simplest of reasons? Tax. We can buy items cheaply from Europe due to the removal of import taxes because of free trade agreements. Just look at what happens if you buy an item on eBay from the US as opposed to from an EC country - you get screwed by HMRC.

And everything said in this thread is someone's opinions, it's just that some, like the one you draw attention to , are based on facts - like the many people who were interviewed on TV and radio clearly stating that they have absolutely no intention of voting for Schrod-Farage at a general election but want to send a wake-up call to the other politicians.

robcoupe20vt, in France (where I lived for almost 20 years) and in Spain (where I live now), there is a very limited debate about leaving or disbanding the EU. My understanding from within is that the UK has always been viewed popularly as a tiresome, spoilt child, stamping its feet and running to the Americans, rather than making a commitment to being part of Europe as continental Europeans see it.
Unsurprisingly (we are an island after all) we really do see it differently. But where we get all tabloid about the shape of bananas or the disgraceful amount of waste there is, most European countries would actually rather try and mend it.
It's an extraordinarily different proposition to harmonise such a vast, disparate group of nations and cultures and it may prove to be over ambitious, looking back on decades to come. But the point of the EU is not specifically to help Nigel Farage and his little Englanders, it's to help Europe as a continent move forward in the face of larger and more powerful economic blocs.
It actually may just not be a case of trying to find evidence on the internet as to who is "right" or "wrong" about such a dauntingly complex issue. I've lived for much of my adult life outside the UK and my instinct (paradoxically as a more British-feeling person than before I left) is that the UK would be desperately exposed if exiled from Europe, yet there are many things within the EU that leave me baffled, angry and upset - as they do with any large organisation trying to square a billion acres of circles.

The article I linked to above makes an excellent point: a significant proportion of those British people who are disengaged with the current major parties think in a paradigm that the latter cannot connect with. What has always been assumed to be axiomatic to "right" thinking people actually isn't; they don't like foreigners (at least not being involved in determining what Britain does within its shores), they don't believe that being outward looking is intrinsically better and they do believe that Britain (or more specifically, England...) is somehow superior.

It's going to take some nifty ideological thinking to make attracting that electorate acceptable to a lot of current politicians.

No that's not true. Most Europeans do want the EU to reform, few want out.



Exactly - nobody, especially not you or I. But if you bothered to read the work YOUR government has produced on studying this very question you may find some the facts differ from the UK1P and other anti EU hysteria & propaganda. If, as a nation decide to stay in or leave please let it be an informed and factual debate. Many of the in and out protagonists don't really want what is better for you and I, they want what is better for themselves



We THINK this is the case. Perhaps the UK demand for luxury goods is due to the fact we are in Europe, and prosperous as a result. The UK market benefits from having lower business taxes than many European states, hence investment in the UK to get access to Europe. If we were no longer in then why would foreign investment stay. Such a decision, made lightly could cost the UK a lot of jobs if foreign investment didn't see the UK as a route into the EU.




It is my hope, honestly the party we speak of are haven't really got a clue how to run a country. Their previous manifesto made it clear that "Hard Working People" would pay a high price for the implementation of their "IDEAS." Politics isn't easy, and nor should it be. In the UK winning votes has started to become a popularity contest or single issue game. This week real issues got lost behind this complete and utter rubbish. Tony Benn, Mrs T and the many other political idealists who worked their way through the political system, serving their electorate, for years before ever getting into high profile politics, must be spinning in their graves. Farage is an opportunist who is in it for himself, and a section of our nation seem happy to keep the rich boy accustomed to his lifestyle.

I bet most folks didn't even realise that in the week we were all discussing immigration, and in or out of Europe, there was a discussion taking place where it was tabled that we should introduce charging for doctors visits and non emergency healthcare treatment.

Well, we may soon find out!

Perhaps the problem is the Euro zone and not the politicians!

BUT! I have no faith in any of the 3 main parties and i think this is what has done UKIP a big favour regarding votes at the moment

I don't recall there being a frenzy like this back in the 90's when the Euro Zone was not as Big!?

So is it the Greed of the Euro machine wanting everybody to join even some countries that perhaps should not of?

We all just want a level playing field but it does seem to slope in favour of immigrants at the moment so you cant blame them for wanting to come over who in there right mind would miss an opportunity like this, its not the immigrants fault its the system!

I AM! however, concerned with the amount of immigrants, as i am worried for the Future of my children! this does not make me Racist! just very concerned!

I don't think the Euro on the whole is bad but what it has become is!

So not just UK protest voting. And "France for the French"...interesting times to come I think.

Yes, so much for my earlier assertion!

The whole eu was in melt down, France and Germany footed the brunt of the financial bill, you'd expect them (the french) to be a little peeved.

It's important for the usual suspects to get a hit of reality, brings them closer to what the people who they represent want.

What exactly is it about the amount of immigrants that concerns you?

And so we're clear I'm asking from a point of genuine interest, not to label anyone in a particular way or assume a particular point of view.

Exactly that the amount!

But what about the amount? What does the number have to do with anything?

The most pro Eu party (Liberal Democrates) in this country gets wiped out and is left with one remaining MEP . The party that wants to leave the Eu get the most MEPs . The people who bothered to vote have spoken . I think the Uk1p vote is beyond a protest vote and between the UK . France ,Sweden, Denmark and Hungary people are fed up with the EU and mass Immigration . Interesting times ahead for the French .