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Re: Top speed #140631
29/06/2006 17:18
29/06/2006 17:18
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Quote:

Andrew, *no* GPS satellite receiver works by *direction*.

The satellites contain very accurate clocks, and the receivers contain an ephemeris which knows where the satellites should be based on the current time. All they broadcast is a very accurate time signal; the receiver uses the ephemeris only to know which satellites might be above the horizon at any time, which decreases the lock time (no need to check for a signal from a satellite out of sight).




I bow to your superior knowledge and it just goes to show that you learn something new every day.

I'd always just assumed that they used basic triangulation to get a position.


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Re: Top speed #140632
29/06/2006 17:23
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I am suitably humbled as well.

learned something new today.

Re: Top speed #140633
29/06/2006 17:34
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Barnacle is a real whizz!!!!

He always teaches me something new

Joe

Re: Top speed #140634
29/06/2006 18:20
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There are a bunch of satellites up there, around 20,000 km aove the surface of the earth. They all transmit a very accurate (nanosecond) time of day and their orbital information. Speed of light delay means the signal is delayed by between 66 and 86 milliseconds.

As you know where the satellite is, you know how far away from it you are - or at least, you know how much further away one is than another. From that you can calculate two places on the globe where that relationship holds - two points where two distance arcs cross. A third satellite reference gives you another arc that should cross one of the two points you got earlier.

In practice, noise, atmospheric distortion, errors in the orbital information, the fact that the satellites are bombing around at about four thousand miles an hour and such like conspire to give you a circle that your somewhere within; the more satellites you can see, the smaller that circle.

Neil


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Re: Top speed #140635
29/06/2006 18:58
29/06/2006 18:58
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Yeah, no danger i'll be trying it. Have you seen the roads on skye. Hit 135mph and bottled it.




Excatly the same as the roads around me, not great!, I hit the same speed and bottled it too!!
I only had the car a couple of weeks at the time.
Lovely dry day and a clear road, so time to stretch the Coupe's legs.
I had been driving a Peugeot Partner van for the year before, so I got a shock when I looked down at the speedo and seeing it heading past 135, I thought I was only doing slightly over the ton at the time


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