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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393907
25/11/2012 15:24
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The starts at Interlagos are usually great as cars can battle side by side all the way down the long drag into turn 4. Cars will be defending on the inside extremely hard into this turn, which leads to drivers either out braking themselves on the dirty surface, or really compromising their exit which leaves them vulnerable into turn 6 (Ferradura), where its possible to overtake on either side.

I don't think Massa will do anything to deliberately harm Vettel's race, but if he gets a chance to hang him out to dry at the start through the Senna esses, he'll definately take it.

The Ferrari is around 3 - 4km/h faster at the end of the straights, but the Red Bull is lower geared so gets to its top speed quicker. This is especially effective on full tanks at the start of the race. Vettel will look to maximise this advantage in the early laps to put a move on either Mclaren and put a car between him and the Ferraris.

Hulkenberg could also have a part to play if he gets a decent start. The Force India is quick in a straight line and somebody could end up being bottled behind him in the early laps.

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393908
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The only thing I'd hate to see would be a Schumacher/Hill scenario...

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393916
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I don't think Vettel will be too bothered - If Massa storms along side he can just give him a wide berth. He just needs to stay around Alonso..... I have to say its an achievement to be a triple World Champ - No allegience but to do it in different teams would be an extra mark of class.....

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393924
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Alonso in 3rd smile

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393925
25/11/2012 17:05
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That was interesting!


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: barnacle] #1393927
25/11/2012 17:07
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Damned right! Come on Alonso....... driving

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393928
25/11/2012 17:09
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ALonso wants a picnic too.


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393930
25/11/2012 17:11
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Brilliant driving from Massa

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393931
25/11/2012 17:12
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That looked like more wreckage?


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393933
25/11/2012 17:13
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Really good to see Jenson and Lewis racing each other.


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393934
25/11/2012 17:20
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I have never seen so much action.

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393935
25/11/2012 17:29
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Hulkenberg - who'da thunk it?


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393936
25/11/2012 17:29
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How is vettels car still working? He hets all the luck (not that I am biased at all in any way)

Go hulkenberg

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393937
25/11/2012 17:35
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Why hasn't Vettel been given a penalty for overtaking under yellows?

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393938
25/11/2012 17:38
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How long does it take to sweep up a few bits of carbon?

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393939
25/11/2012 17:38
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Rediculous to bring the safety car out now. If the debris is bad enough for a SC period now, then it was bad enough 12 laps ago.

Ferrari International Assistance to the rescue again.

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393940
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Long enough to stuff Hulkenberg and Button's races...


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: skinflint] #1393941
25/11/2012 17:39
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Originally Posted By: skinflint
How long does it take to sweep up a few bits of carbon?


They have to wait for the field to concertina back up again, to make it safe for the marshalls to get out on track. Takes a while as the cars have to stick to a reduced lap time delta during a SC period.

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393944
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Nice one Kobyashi

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: ] #1393945
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Originally Posted By: DennisK
Originally Posted By: skinflint
How long does it take to sweep up a few bits of carbon?


They have to wait for the field to concertina back up again, to make it safe for the marshalls to get out on track. Takes a while as the cars have to stick to a reduced lap time delta during a SC period.


Sounds like DC reads your posts, Dennis smile


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393946
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Who doesn't?


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393951
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wtf is Kimi playing at?


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393952
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Now things get interesting... Lewis didn't deserve that.


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: barnacle] #1393953
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Hulkenburg, you cock!


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393956
25/11/2012 18:46
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All over now

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393957
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I've mentioned before I have a lot of time for Button... that was a cracking drive.


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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393958
25/11/2012 18:53
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That Red Bull must be built well after that start.
Alonso tried everything.
Hulk/Hamilton gave Button the win - but fair play Hulk for trying.
Well done Seb..... driving

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Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393960
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Alonso did everything he could, good race by Vettel even though he did overtake on yellow flags. Button and Massa drove a great a race.

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393965
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Can't ask for more than that from a race...
Epic; and you'd have to say Vettel did a decent job to recover from the first lap.

Bring on 2013!

Re: The Official Brazilian F1 Grand Prix Thread 2012 [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1393969
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That was a very very good final race of the season. It had pretty much everything you could want.


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