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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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20/09/2012 17:31
20/09/2012 17:31
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DanielTheManual
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I occasionally use Google Maps, so if they've removed it and replaced it with crap then it looks like I won't be installing iOS6 until Google Maps is available from the app store.
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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20/09/2012 23:18
20/09/2012 23:18
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charlie_croker
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Youtube still works it's just via Safari rather than a dedicated app. Go to London (for example) on the maps, then click the little icon at botton left of screen (looks like blocks/buildings), then take a flight over the city
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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20/09/2012 23:24
20/09/2012 23:24
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charlie_croker
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To summarise... fawn fawn fawn...it has a bigger screen, is a bit thinner... fawn fawn fawn..err we can't think of much to say... fawn fawn fawn... oh yes its a bit faster... AND has a glass caremera lens cover. Ooops, just made a mess, must go change A bit less fawning, then some fawning, it has a bigger screen, it is thinner, in fact very thin indeed. Must not forget it's faster, oh yes the guy abovge did not mention the panoramic camera feature. Doubtless it's a good phone but it is not the biggest event Apple have hosted and I have yet to find any of my iPhone buddies willing to make the change. Well it would appear that lots of people do want to make the change Financial Times
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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20/09/2012 23:58
20/09/2012 23:58
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ali_hire
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Can you still get a Youtube app? I was worried you couldn't anymore - our 3 yr old goes straight for it on the iPad! There's a YouTube app in the app store (free). I've just downloaded it and it seems better than the stock Apple one.
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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21/09/2012 01:26
21/09/2012 01:26
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enfant_teribl
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Can you still get a Youtube app? I was worried you couldn't anymore - our 3 yr old goes straight for it on the iPad! There's a YouTube app in the app store (free). I've just downloaded it and it seems better than the stock Apple one. Great - IOS 6 would have been ruled out if not
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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21/09/2012 19:47
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MeanRedSpider
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I must say, I'm now reluctant to install iOS6 until Google Maps is available as an app, even though you can still use it through Safari... Just loaded ios6 on the iPad and first impression of Apple's map is poor 3 of my recently successful Google searches returned nothing on new maps and Inverness High School produced 2 results - both in US! Not impressed. Until it gets better I think the iPhone will stay on 5
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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21/09/2012 20:14
21/09/2012 20:14
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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21/09/2012 20:27
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Biggenz
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My Iphone5 32gig will be here tomorrow. So anyone looking for a good condition Iphone4, mine will be for sale.
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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21/09/2012 21:26
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Picked up my 5 at the store today. The first thing that struck me is how incredibly light it is, much nicer to handle than my 4s. Other than that its largely the same, screen is a bit bigger yes, but that just feels instantly right and how it should always have been.
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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22/09/2012 11:40
22/09/2012 11:40
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I ended up in a cul-de-sac last night thanks to the cr*p map app - how do I put the new (to me) iPhone back to iOS5?
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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22/09/2012 11:46
22/09/2012 11:46
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Doesn't look like you can - here's hoping Apple sort this out...perhaps charlie_croker can help
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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22/09/2012 20:23
22/09/2012 20:23
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The running joke has begun: The Amazing iOS 6
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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22/09/2012 22:14
22/09/2012 22:14
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ali_hire
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So I've had the phone for a little over 24 hours now and I thought I'd share my first impressions.
I wouldn't say I'm an Apple fanboy; I've never owned an Apple product other than the iPhone. That said, I've owned just about every iPhone since the first one so I'm undoubtedly a little biased.
The first thing that struck me was the fit and finish of the device. I know it shouldn't come as a surprise as Apple are big on this across their whole range of products but it really looks like they've gone to town on this phone.
It's light, noticeably so in the hand and pocket. I feared when I heard it was thinner and lighter that it would feel cheap and flimsy (something I think about the Samsung Galaxy S3 - a phone I otherwise admire). Gladly it doesn't. It's still the same well built, sturdy 4-5 inches of glass, plastic and metal and it feels expensive (it bloody well ought to).
One comment I do have is that the etched back panel seems like it will pick up scratches very easily. Given that the majority of phones will spend a lot of time being put down on their back on a variety of surfaces and I reckon that over time the back will end up looking scruffy.
The headphone jack is now on the bottom of the phone next to the speaker, charging connector, et al. I can't think of a reason what prompted them to do this other than to perhaps make the space management inside the phone work a bit better. It seems counter-intuitive to me at the moment but I haven't been out for a run or walk using the headphones yet so perhaps it won't be such a big deal. I'm going to have to buy a new armband for running anyway (due to the new size) so the hole for cable access will be in the right place.
Using this phone is quick and very slick. I came from a 4 (not 4S) so the jump in speed is huge for me. However, even comparing it my cousin's 4S last night side by side he was suitably impressed. There was a noticeable difference in how quickly the phone does basic tasks such as switching between screens or opening apps.
Although a lot of people think Siri is a bit of a toy and has no use I spend a fair amount of time in the car and today I've dictated texts, made a call and organised an appointment in the diary all while driving. I haven't played around with other things that Siri claims it can do yet but my early impressions of it are decent. I'm not sure if it's been improved over the last version or if I just speak more clearly than others I've heard getting frustrated when it doesn't understand.
One annoying thing is that almost all of my apps do not fit the full screen at the moment as they were developed for the 4's screen size. I assume (hope) that the majority of these will be fixed in the coming weeks with updates (the developers have presumably only had a little over 24 hours with the device so far so I guess I should cut them some slack).
Maps. This is a big one and seemingly a source of huge embarrassment for Apple. They took the decision to ditch Google and develop their own and when you're taking that sort of risk (and you shamelessly self-promote the way only Apple can) it needs be better than great. It clearly isn't at the moment. I've not used maps to navigate anywhere at the moment and apart from using 'flyover' on a couple of US cities I haven't really played around with the maps too much.
One thing I will say in Apple's defence is that although the content clearly needs a lot of work some of the ideas in the new maps app could be very good indeed.
I like the way that you can find local points of interest (restaurants, pubs, etc.) and that tapping on their icon brings up contact details, reviews and contact details. Obviously this is content dependent and there seems to be a hell of stuff in the wrong places, labelled incorrectly or missing but I think that if they can get the content sorted this could be a very handy feature.
Proper Sat Nav built in is also a huge plus. Again, they need to sort the content for it to work properly.
I don't like that omission of Google means that Street View is no longer available. I use this a fair bit at work and not having it is annoying. I expect there to be a Googlemaps app released pretty soon.
The camera seems great so far. I haven't been out and about to take any shots of anything interesting yet but the general quality of it seems very good and the Panorama feature is far superior to either of the apps I have previously tried (Photosynth and DMD Panorama). I haven't blown the panoramas that I've taken up to any larger size but on the phone's screen I cannot see where they've stitched the images together (perhaps it works differently and there's no stitching involved).
All in all I'm happy with the new phone. I effectively got it for nothing as the handset cost me £109 and I'll sell my old phone for far more than that. Yes there are problems with some of the software on it and a Samsung Galaxy S3 will probably do everything this phone does (and maybe more) for less money. But I still probably wouldn't have another phone.
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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23/09/2012 00:47
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Vickster
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I like the way that you can find local points of interest (restaurants, pubs, etc.) and that tapping on their icon brings up contact details, reviews and contact details. Obviously this is content dependent and there seems to be a hell of stuff in the wrong places, labelled incorrectly or missing but I think that if they can get the content sorted this could be a very handy feature.
It was looking for a pub-restaurant that ended me up in a cul de sac - albeit near it I think...I had to fire up the TomTom and then the place was shut for a refub, Apple didn't tell me that
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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23/09/2012 10:03
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Truffle
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Considering that Apple just seem to have bought some old Tom-Tom maps which appear to be upto 5 years out of date (going by some people's discoveries), i'm not suprised you didnt have much luck.
I'd also take a wild guess and say that they bought a bundle a geolocation data and just uploaded it without doing any extensive testing. This would be why alot of the locations on their maps are all out of place and other places show up multiple times .
If this was a technology problem (ie the program was flawed), then it would be a relatively easy fix. The fact that it is a content problem is what is really going to cause Apple headaches. We're not talking about a small database here!
The only reason that Google Maps is a detailed as it is today is becuase it's effectively open-source. Anyone can go in and place a geolocation marker for their own business, build a 3d model of their house and upload it, add in contact details and a business card etc, hell they'll even show you how to build your own 'street view' pack so you can record footpaths/golf courses etc.
It has been like this for several years aswell.
Apple's "walled garden" approach to software design will really be put to the sword trying to fix this and then compete with google maps over the next year or two. Whereas Google maps will continually evolve and be up-to-date thanks to the 1000's of people updating their own details, Apple will be relying on Tom-Tom and other 3rd party companies to not only keep their information up-to-date, but to also innovate to keep their feature set appealing.
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Re: "New iPhone" launch
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25/09/2012 08:59
25/09/2012 08:59
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