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Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 11:27
17/06/2012 11:27
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MattyB
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Here I go again for the 4th time in 18 months! I dont want to quit but money and health is forcing me too No idea how I'm going to do it! I have some E-cigs and nicorate mints. Any tips?
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 12:04
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FreakinFreak
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Hoping to quit when not wanting to quit is not a good starting point.
The benefit of extra cash or non-immediate health issues are not really going to be enough. Maybe you should concentrate on other areas. For instance: - Now smoking is banned in work and public spaces you smell real bad. You can't smell it because your still smoking, but believe me you smell like a tramp. You're socially repugnant. - Smoking is now associated with losers. Look around you and see what demographic, as a general group, are still smoking - yep, it's those with very little else.
When I packed them in, I found something I despised was closely associated with cigarettes (Thatcher taking a directorship with Phillip Morris) gave me a mental reason not to smoke, and killed that initial 'only one won't hurt' thought process right away.
I had also worked my way down to Silk Cut extra, extra mild (the old all-white box), and it's just embarrassing buying them - it's a public admission that you're hooked.
I guess in summary, what I'm saying is, you have to hate yourself as a smoker, because there's more to you than that. That you don't want to be defined by others as a sucker to the cigarette industry.
Good luck.
Last edited by FreakinFreak; 17/06/2012 12:07.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 12:34
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Hypnotism can work for some people. There are MP3's you can download for around a fiver. I think hypnosisdownloads.com and uncommonknowledge do them, I used the nail-biting one which worked (for 6 months, I have to listen to it periodically but it's only 20 mins long)!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 13:49
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I don't want to perpetuate the "it is difficult to give up smoking" myth , because that along with all the crappy patches - ecigs, gum etc. is what makes it harder.
So what does work? Books tend to give you the opportunity to move on mentally and you definitely need this. Alan Carr has some good stuff in it.
Evaluate every cig you smoke. Was it a good one? You'll be amazed that about 90% of the time that cig you smoked has just made you feel crap.
Identify your trigger points. For me there were 3.
1. "I'm having a crap day - can't wait to have a fag" Once I'd mentally booked the next cigarette nothing would stop me, so I stopped promising them to myself.
2. Bored in the car - Swapped the cigs for sweets. Not a great choice, but it could be gum, or anything.
3. Pub - solved by the smoking ban.
Enjoy the healthy new you. 36 hours - the worst of the withdrawal is over. 5 days - start to feel good. 6 months - your lungs are cleaner, you're capable of anything a non-smoker can do.
Find a new way to get high. Alcohol, physical exercise, sex, whatever.
Finally, use your tenses correctly. The moment you stop you ARE a non-smoker. You are not giving up, you have given up.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 14:46
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Easiest way to give up smoking? Have a CT scan like I did three months ago that shows a large bulla (hole/space) in my left upper lobe, multiple smaller bullae (holes/spaces) all over both lungs, fibrosis in both lungs and emphysema in both lungs. I have smoked for less than 20yrs, usually 20/day. Trust me, when you have a doctor apologising for breaking "such bad news" via the telephone due to circumstances beyond his control instead of in person, you'll give up there and then! So, your choice, stop now and don't go through what I'm going through (shortness of breath, in a wheelchair, attending respiratory clinics etc) or say "Sod it" and carry on smoking...... I used to rationalise it to myself that grandmother/grandfather both smoked and lived into their 90's *but* what I was turning a blind eye to was the fact that my father died of lung cancer aged only 5yrs older than I am now. I am an idiot! Given the chance I'd never have started (only did after the death of my father....as the yanks say, "Go figure!"). I gave up mainly through fear of dying sooner rather than later, and using nicotine lozenges and the inhalator. It has been easy! Very easy! In fact, I've tried three or four times in the past but always ended up cheating with a crafty one every day/second day and never lasting that long, couple of weeks maximum. The smoking cessation service in your area might help, best of all they'd get your nicotine replacement therapy on prescription for you to save money, but here's a money saving tip anyway; Morrison's own brand nicotine lozenges are identical to the Nicorette ones Good luck and trust me, when you see the attitude change in the CT scan staff and you *know* they've found bad news you'll wish you'd given up years ago! Don't put yourself through this......
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 15:10
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I gave up smoking over twenty three years ago for health reasons. Easy for the likes of me to come along & say it was an easy choice, but it really was. I woke up one morning after the night before & was greeted with dark blood on the pillow. Mmm not good I thought. Without going into too much detail I gave up. Screwed up all the cigarettes in the house & never looked back. No patches or waste of money things too complicate the issue. I wanted to live long enough to become a Granddad at least. The money I saved was a bonus as well. Nowadays it's a small fortune feeding your smoking habit. Personally there are no real tips other than using the grey matter. AS I say, so easy for me, but that's only my wee story. Give up man, you know it makes sense....
Last edited by jimboy; 17/06/2012 15:11.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 15:22
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All I would add it change behaviours which were associated with smoking, for example if you have a break at x time of day with a coffee and Cig then avoid the break, do something else, even change choice of drink location etc to lessen the association.
Good luck.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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17/06/2012 16:33
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Well, I've now been up 6 hours and havent had a cig. Only a few puffs of the E-cig.
I keep thinking about nipping out to buy some fags but then asking myself why? I think today is an easy day as I havent been out or needed to go out. It's going to be the rest of the week which will be hard.
I'm going to the pub for a roast in an hour or so and this pub has a nice sheltered beer garden I'm pretty much always in. This will be the test......
Ex Coupe Owner - Unfortunate Peugeot driver!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: Nigel]
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17/06/2012 18:22
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we haven't spent about £130 grand on fags since we gave up. However, for some reason, I can't seem to find the money we saved......
Look at the pics of your coupes, you should be able to see £££ signs all over them
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: stan]
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17/06/2012 19:26
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Easiest way to give up smoking? Have a CT scan like I did three months ago that shows a large bulla (hole/space) in my left upper lobe, multiple smaller bullae (holes/spaces) all over both lungs, fibrosis in both lungs and emphysema in both lungs. I have smoked for less than 20yrs, usually 20/day. Trust me, when you have a doctor apologising for breaking "such bad news" via the telephone due to circumstances beyond his control instead of in person, you'll give up there and then! So, your choice, stop now and don't go through what I'm going through (shortness of breath, in a wheelchair, attending respiratory clinics etc) or say "Sod it" and carry on smoking...... I used to rationalise it to myself that grandmother/grandfather both smoked and lived into their 90's *but* what I was turning a blind eye to was the fact that my father died of lung cancer aged only 5yrs older than I am now. I am an idiot! Given the chance I'd never have started (only did after the death of my father....as the yanks say, "Go figure!"). I gave up mainly through fear of dying sooner rather than later, and using nicotine lozenges and the inhalator. It has been easy! Very easy! In fact, I've tried three or four times in the past but always ended up cheating with a crafty one every day/second day and never lasting that long, couple of weeks maximum. The smoking cessation service in your area might help, best of all they'd get your nicotine replacement therapy on prescription for you to save money, but here's a money saving tip anyway; Morrison's own brand nicotine lozenges are identical to the Nicorette ones Good luck and trust me, when you see the attitude change in the CT scan staff and you *know* they've found bad news you'll wish you'd given up years ago! Don't put yourself through this...... Sorry to hear this Stan.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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17/06/2012 20:14
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As most on here know, I was a 60 a day smoker until Jan 2nd this year. I stopped smoking with the help of Nicorette's Nasal Spray (excellent stuff if you're a heavy smoker) and Nicorette's Quickmist mouth spray (I'd recommend you buy this, it's good stuff). I also had an ecig too. I stopped using the nasal sprays and mouth sprays after about 3 months and still use the ecig. I still have a nicotine intake and love my ecig, so hard to say if I've really given up smoking or not, but it's certainly a healthier alternative and it's my health that concerned me, which is why I stopped smoking. It's been 5 and a 1/2 months for me now and have no intentions of starting smoking again and I put this down to the help of the ecig. As you're not a heavy smoker, I wouldn't recommend the nasal spray, but I would certainly recommend the Quick mist mouth spray to you and will help you more than gum will I've tried every stop smoking aid available and have a good knowledge of each product available Good luck!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: MattyB]
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18/06/2012 19:43
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My mum has to go for a CT scan this wedmesday after the doctor examined her and found something he didn't like. She is 59 now and has been smoking 20 a day since she was 17.
She has a really bad cough, and smells like a stinking ashtray.
Erlier this year my Grandad dies of complications from Empysema, he stopped smoking 20 years ago but beforehand had smoked since his teens.
I hate the habit, and wish you the best of success stopping. You will feel better for it I am sure, and almost certainly live far longer with a better quality of life.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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19/06/2012 12:03
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Day 4. Sat at my desk with my knee bouncing around and I'd kill for a cig. I've had some of my e-cig and currently chewing gum. Just got to get to get over the next few days and hoping it'll start getting easier.
Hoping I dont have one at the weekend.
Ex Coupe Owner - Unfortunate Peugeot driver!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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21/06/2012 12:35
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I've failed. I gave in yesterday evening and had a couple..... Well, 7. I was very very irratable... although I only bought 10 and I havent taken with me to work today. I'm back on the e-cig again. Figured i'll try and "cut" down and see the doctors for additional help. I have no will power unfortunately
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Re: Quitting smoking...
[Re: stan]
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21/06/2012 18:11
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It ain't easy Matty but stick at it.
Lack of willpower's my problem too. Have given up countless times for months on end but go on holiday or have a night on the pop and think "I'm having a fag" - more for the wantonness of it rather than actually craving one. Stupid really.
I'll be having another dabble when I get to the end of my duty frees after the latest failed attempt - and when I do it I'll have another read of Stan's sobering post to give me added willpower. Highlighting the health issues of smoking usually puts me right off.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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21/06/2012 18:34
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Don't forget, it is not just lungs that get buggered by smoking, it can screw up just about everything.
How many people are aware of the links between smoking and bladder cancer for example? Think Fred Dibnah for an example of that link.
I had stopped smoking back in 1982, it still was a factor in my developing a very rare form of cancer 25 years later.
Stick with it Matty, it has to be worth the effort.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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30/07/2012 02:16
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Just to say that's it's now been 7 months since I gave up Never thought I'd reach this stage. I have the biggest and fattest e cig you'll have ever seen and I still have a nicotine intake, but I have none of the harmful effects of smoking and my lungs are thanking me I still enjoy the smell of a proper ciggie and still hang around with smokers, but I don't think I'll ever go back to smoking again To all you that are still trying - keep going and get as much as you can to help you, you'll get there eventually I'll continue with my e cig for the forseeable future, but for now, I'm happy that I'm not taking in all the harmful chemicals that was causing me to wheeze like an 80 year old. From a 60+ a day ex smoker - keep trying
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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31/07/2012 19:53
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Great stuff Theresa
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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Stan. Truely sorry to read what you been going through. T. You know you can't start again. Well done sincerely for keeping it up. To everyone else it's good to stop or even cut down. Just a pity it's so enjoyable, well at times. My father in law died in his late 50's due to not following advice on smoking as well as diet. It's was very spiteful, I'll end it there! I loved smoking but you just got to admit, it kills you or could take away quality of life which is in some ways worse? I know I mostly post rubbish, but quitting smoking there's no definitive answer, you just have to find what works for you!
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 02:45
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I am an ex smoker and have not smoked for nearly three years. I am someone who has smoked and quit three times in my adult life. Hence you just got to find what works for you.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 08:41
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I REALLY REALLY want to quit. Its a wierd one with me. I can go days, sometimes weeks without a ciggy. I think yeah i fancy one, but if i dont have a pack i dont bother. Its when im around other smokers. Or i see someone smoke in teh street, the smell just makes me want one. I then go and buy a pack and im back to square 1. I used the ecigs before but they made me still crave the nicotine. Cold turkey doesnt work for me as so many of my mates smoke and when your down at the pub... or the ace... its just really hard to say no. Going to give it another shot though Any advice would be great
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 08:45
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I would say just get the eCigs and stick with them. Crave them as much as you like. Follow Theresa's example.
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Re: Quitting smoking...
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01/08/2012 09:06
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E cigs don't really address the root cause, addiction to nicotine. You are still getting it albeit in a less harmful way.
Ultimately it comes down to will power and simply deciding that you are a non-smoker.
I went the cold turkey route.
One morning at work I decided I did not smoke any more and instead of opening a new pack of cigarettes gave it to a work collegue saying that I had stopped smoking.
That was in 1982.
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