Good olde BBC Ulster

Rumours were rife - I saw rumours about Saville posted on Usenet groups move than a decade ago, but what you going to do about it?

^ It would have taken a brave journo to take on the task and put his or her career on the line, let's not forget he was a 'national treasure' until a couple of months ago.
Not to mention his alleged links to the Irish mafia, which was also a well known secret.

You knew and you did nothing??!!?!!11!one! That makes you worse than Saville (according to the media).

Slightly funny, slightly icky!

http://www.bitterwallet.com/billy-savile-wants-to-visit-the-theme-hospital/60456

haha
I loved that game as a kid!

I truly don't get this argument that a "National Treasure" makes you safe. Princess Dianna was a national treasure but her reputation was totally destroyed and torn to bits by the media well before she died.



But is that not what an investigative journalist is supposed to do? Journalist have recently been exposed for doing things that were illegal in order to get stories aired that had far less public interest than this. I would suggest that taking a huge scalp such as Saville would have been far more lucrative in selling papers. Let's not forget this fellow used to be a guest of Royalty and Mrs T. Many Journalists would have done all manner of things to have had the credit for exposing his secrets.

Bob , I agree entirely, that was my point!
The fact that the chairman of Children in need wouldn't let Savile anywhere near the charity because there was 'something creepy' about him, should have had alarm bells ringing all over fleet street. One of the highest profile charity raisers in the country with Jim'll fix it connections?!

Celebrity paedophiles

NSFW, contains strong language.

Death by media is certainly happening. Exactly the same logic is being used by the papers as always happens when something which might embarrass an organisation: since [some members of a group] do [unpleasant things] therefore all [members of the group] do them.

So since Savile has been accused, and one or two others, not only was the BBC a hotbed of this activity but it actively encouraged it.

Bollocks. That argument was flawed in Aristotle's day, and it's just as flawed now. The BBC at the time - I joined it in 1978 and was there until 2010 - had around thirty-five thousand employees. I can speak from personal experience when I say that while the BBC had a reputation (in the papers, naturally) as the biggest gay hangout in London, the people there were just the same as those in Shepherd's Bush Market or High Street Kensington.

I believe I have posted previously on the rumoured availability of the audience of Top of the Pops; I cannot offer any comment as to their ages or indeed what it was that they got up to - though the rumours were indeed that they were as a rule not backward in coming forwards.

But while I do not condone the behaviour alleged to Savile (and on the couple of occasions I met him I disliked him intensely) there is a difference between 'I was abused' and 'I was a star-struck kid who actively sought out both the groups of the time and the DJs who played their music'. And I wonder how many people have moved from one group to the other...

Jeez

I personally think this business of whether the BBC should have screened a tribute or a piece of investigative journalism is being blown out of all proportion.

It doesn't change what happened, and criminal investigations are a job for the Police.

Sorry for the late reply, I've been out painting "Peedo skum" on my front door and putting my own windows in. In light of this now being all my fault I feel it's the least I can do.

They're already planning to dig him up and burn him. Burning is too bloody good for him, if you ask me guv.

Personally, I strongly suspect that the sort of behaviour being attributed to Savile was pretty rife in the music business, and that he is being singled out and demonised as if it were not. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his critics were just as bad.

Also, I have to keep coming back to this: Is child abuse more heinous than murder? How does that work, exactly?

How old was Mandy Smith when she was carousing with Bill Wyman in the 1980s (in very public gaze)? 13 years old.

John Peel. Allegedly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939

Pathetic - If I were in charge of ITV I'd resign in embarrassment.

I thought Cameron handled it incredibly well given what a silly stunt it was

Yes, I thought so too.

I am trying to imagine how Schofield feels about himself after that. I'd be embarrassed and ashamed.

Firstly, what's the PM doing on This Morning? Secondly, did Philip Schofield really just hand CMD a piece of paper with names of people that are rumoured on the internet to be involved with paedophilia and ask him what he's going to do about it?! Absolutely ridiculous.

He should have said he was going to get the cabinet and a lot of pitchforks to go and torch their houses.

I think it's more shocking that the shadow business secretary implied that Schofield is a serious broadcast journalist.

We should all have seen the signs. He was crying out for help while he was alive;

Agreed.

Should be sent to the jungle in Australia and be eaten instead of kangaroo testicles by other morons..... and watched by other morons...

You have to wonder what the hell Schofield expected the PM to do... Whatever he said he was doomed; the best thing he could have done was what he did: by refusing to look at it he could safely ignore commenting on those names.

People have been leaping on the 'witchhunt against gays' comment as if the PM has some prejudice there, but again I think he was correct - hoi polloi out there seems to associate paedophilia with homosexuality and, as always, can't separate the concept of 'someone who is X did Y' from 'all X do Y'.

Mind you - the intelligence of a mob is that of its least bright person divided by the number in the mob... logic is not expected to be its strong point.

A few years ago the net was a wash with rumours that Philip Schofield and Jason Donovan were in a relationship.
When Schofield was confronted with this information, he stated there was no truth in the rumours and that it was just 'internet gossip'

My guess would be that the statistics might back up the hoi polloi assumption in the case of offences against young boys - I can't imagine many women or straight men would be involved. Obviouisly in offences against girls the opposite would be expected.

No, that would be "All those who do Y are X"

Subtly different