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Carbotech XP-10 pads #1218522
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I thought some people may be interested in the brake pads which i have fitted from Carbotech, so here is a little review;

I fitted them a few weeks ago and am really impressed with the cold bite – these are significantly better than the EBC yellowstuff I was using before, just as good as standard pads. They dont require any heat to be effective.

I went out to bed the pads in and was soon licking the windscreen! I am now able to lock the brakes at XXXmph very easily, when the pads are warm they are pretty epic. I was quite an advocate of the Yellowstuff pads but these really are a different league, i'm able to control the brakes to the point of locking at any speed.

I used the pads on a small trackday last week and they were excellent too. I couldn’t get them to fade and found I could brake much later than I previously could when using the Yellowstuff. At Curborough, i think i improved my braking distance on the main straight by around 15m (based on the marker boards).

The only downsides which I have noticed are; lots of brake dust (which I’m not bothered about), and they squeal badly. I may have to look into shims for this.

The XP-10 is a race compound, and there are some great reviews on the t'interweb, mainly from Mitusbishi Evo owners.

The bedding in procedure is a "Light Trackday" smile

I can highly recommend these pads.

Thanks to Begbie for recommending

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218560
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Matt,

How do the Carbotechs hold up after a 20 minute track session? Curborough's all well and good as a test of cold braking, where I'd expect OMP pads to be able to perform acceptably. But have you used them on a 20 minute track session at 100mph +?

In other news, my Pagid yellows, fitted in february, have crumbled to dust in just 4 trackdays and less than 2k road miles. So need some decent pads for Spa!!

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: Hovedan] #1218569
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Originally Posted By: Hovedan
In other news, my Pagid yellows, fitted in february, have crumbled to dust in just 4 trackdays and less than 2k road miles.


Can I suggest you get in touch with Paul Wilkinson at CBP - he would be interested to know how you've killed a set of Yellows so quickly


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what im more shocked about is the fact that MattM use's brakes shocked

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218576
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Matt, glad you're enjoying them and yes, they are a tad dusty, although mine don't squeal and if they do, it's at very low speed. Although I'm using the XP8, they don't half chuck some dust out. Polished white wheels for Auto Italia at brooklands last month, 30 mile drive and they are having a nice light covering already.


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: Nigel] #1218578
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Originally Posted By: Hovedan
In other news, my Pagid yellows, fitted in february, have crumbled to dust in just 4 trackdays and less than 2k road miles.


Can I suggest you get in touch with Paul Wilkinson at CBP - he would be interested to know how you've killed a set of Yellows so quickly


I'm going to Nigel! Will report back

Edit - Paul's not back until Thursday. Not that I expect any kind of refund, just somewhat surprised and disappointed.

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Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: Nigel] #1218629
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Originally Posted By: Hovedan
In other news, my Pagid yellows, fitted in february, have crumbled to dust in just 4 trackdays and less than 2k road miles.


Can I suggest you get in touch with Paul Wilkinson at CBP - he would be interested to know how you've killed a set of Yellows so quickly


I believe Dan's MOT tester described it as 'Aggressive Braking' laugh

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Originally Posted By: Truffle
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Originally Posted By: Hovedan
In other news, my Pagid yellows, fitted in february, have crumbled to dust in just 4 trackdays and less than 2k road miles.


Can I suggest you get in touch with Paul Wilkinson at CBP - he would be interested to know how you've killed a set of Yellows so quickly


I believe Dan's MOT tester described it as 'Aggressive Braking' laugh


Agressive driving, and that was relating to the cracking on the discs. Keep up Truff rolleyes

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218694
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Dan, if you need some convincing I can do a couple of heavy brake attempts with my pads tomorrow smile


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218708
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I've used the XP8 too and they're the best ones so far. There was nothing they couldn't stop. smile
Will look into the XP10's as the XP8 dust was pretty aggressive on my wheels.

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: Hovedan] #1218782
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Originally Posted By: Hovedan
Matt,

How do the Carbotechs hold up after a 20 minute track session? Curborough's all well and good as a test of cold braking, where I'd expect OMP pads to be able to perform acceptably. But have you used them on a 20 minute track session at 100mph +?

In other news, my Pagid yellows, fitted in february, have crumbled to dust in just 4 trackdays and less than 2k road miles. So need some decent pads for Spa!!


Not completed a track day with these pads in yet, but I'm expecting good things.

I noticed your thread regarding the pagid. Its interesting because I had my ebc yellows in for a similar period of time and they have been subjected to a similar amount of torture and they look exactly the same as your pagid when I removed them. I also had to change my gold brembos!

I suppose all I can do is report back after a proper track day.

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218805
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Maybe you should add the price difference between Yellow stuff and Carbotech?


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Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218808
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Yellowstuff are around £120 inc vat and the carbotech xp10 pads are £160 inc vat.

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218818
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Still cheaper than Pagid yellow's !



Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218822
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The question is can we get these before Spa chinny

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They should do next delivery i imagine.



Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1218836
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drop Ian at http://www.carbotech-europe.com/ an email, I'm sure he will be able to accomodate laugh


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
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Thanks for the link Alexis wink

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I've just ordered my XP10's, the chap is having to make them so if there's anyone else interested in these I'd get your order in otherwise they won't be made in time for Spa.

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1219231
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Think I also have HoveDan and Marco converted to these pads now, 120mph to 50mph in no time at all. Wait for Marco to bitch about his organs being re-arranged laugh


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Originally Posted By: Begbie
Wait for Marco to bitch about his organ being re-arranged laugh


Corrected that for you Alexis laugh

I had a good chat with a guy called Ian, he said these will be like nothing else I've used before so I'm hoping they're as good as he's saying.

How have you found them for wear as I used a set of DS2500 last year just on that weekend?

Re: Carbotech XP-10 pads [Re: MattM] #1219246
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Can't really comment on wear, as the last set of performance pads I had were the DS2500 and they didn't inspire confidence from high speed, but these are just awesome, yes there is alot of dust generated, but it just slows you at a rapid speed, without fuss or issue, I think I was on the brakes for 2 - 3 seconds tops and that brought the speed down like you wouldn't believe. Probably best for Dan or Marco to comment on their performance.

Actually Marco will have a video of the braking performance as he was filming on our hoon session at the A.I photo shoot.


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I look forward to their feedback wink

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Hmmm.... probably gonna get a set of these when I replace my current DS2500's.

Begbie - I assume carbotech are well upto speed with which pads with fit my D2 6 pots (as they are the same as k-sport 6 pots)?

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Chris, yes they should be. Although I'm on 8-pot calipers


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Originally Posted By: Begbie
Although I'm on 8-pot calipers


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Xp-10's ordered. Now fingers crossed my tyres (federal 595rsr) and pads turn up in time shocked

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Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
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