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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
[Re: MarioCirillo]
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11/05/2011 11:27
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Interesting read... All of the suspension is brand new... inc the ARB bushes... I guess Were going to have to play around with different things?
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 11:36
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If it is bottoming out whats my options? Change the sprins? The thing is duncan has a plus (with aircon onviously) and he didnt get this issue...
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 11:52
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There's got to be something not quite right in the setup as mine looked as low as yours from the pictures, i'm totally not mechanically good but i'm sure Marco will be able to sort it out once you've got the thing apart.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 12:04
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It definitely feels like there is no spring there and its bottoming out. So if it didnt do it on your car and does it on my car then there is something that is contributing to this... something thats making it bottom out... It does it on both sides so logically i can only thing of the ARB? Not sure how or what i can do to adjust it though? Surly if it fits then thats it? Nothing is lose as we checked on the ramp.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 12:21
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If anyone has photos of the Front Bump Stops and how they are fitted that would also be useful...
Per?
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 12:23
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Mario, check the top nut on the shocks is TIGHT. we can wack some foam in there to see if it stops but i dont think it will have any noticeable impact. this is going to be a trial an error thing! i cant wait to get my hands back on the car again!!! what i will do, if you can get it over asap, we will check and compare each side to mine. if the ARB is hitting some thing, we will bring it to my work and adjust it with the plasma cutter joking i will fix it mate!!!! really, the only BIG thing we changed is the ARB, thats the only thing every one is moaning about!!!
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 12:33
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I could be wrong but it just sounds to me like the front is bottoming out, and because you don't have bump stops fitted, it's making a loud bang as the strut slams into the topmount. I think you should try doing as Kelv has mentioned and fit some bump stops. You can just use the standard ones and trim them down before fitting them.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 12:43
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Thats what im thinking/hoping Does anyone have a picture of what it looks like with the bump stops? or even a picture of the bump stops as ive never seen them on the front suspension
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 12:47
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 13:12
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Did you not have any front bump stops on when you removed your old suspension?
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 13:19
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No i didnt duncan Well i dont think i did... Marco has my suspension so he will know
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 13:39
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whats left of them lol there abused and falling apart... not caring too much as they do the job and dont bang fancy a swap mario?
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 13:49
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ah ok, What Boosted7 said sounds like that could well be the issue then.
Having had the garage do all of my suspension work, I can only assume that they used my original front bump stops on for the Billies and when I had the standard ones back on.
I ordered new rear bump stops but none for the front and that is only because I couldn't see any brand new ones for sale from Alternate Autos.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 14:13
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Not sure, those look smaller. Here´s a pic which also shows how much needs to be removed:
Yeah that's my picture. I cut one "ring" off but as it actually was resting on it, I think both "rings" could be cut off. And leave that last rubberblock as bumpstop. (Or else, leaving very short free travel) The Bilstein's have much longer cylinders than Fiat's. I'm surprised so many are riding around ON RUBBER SUSPENSION, complaining about harsh ride.. Still Mario, not as harsh as hitting a speed bump WITHOUT bumpstops of course!
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
[Re: MarioCirillo]
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11/05/2011 14:22
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Brilliant So who has some bump stops they want to give me or sell to me? I can pick them up this evening if its not far?
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 14:34
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Also do you think i could have caused any damage to the shocks/top mounts? It only happend a few times...
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 15:02
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The ones in marcos photo look like they will be the correct size considering the standard ones are cut down
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 15:28
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Might be worth speaking to Joe at CC Mario. When he fitted the billie/eibachs to my le I think he mentioned the need for different bumpstops, which he sorted for me.
Not sure, but they might have been bilstein bumpstops.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 15:42
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Interesting point about the OEM bump-stops being cut down. I don't think mine were cut down by the garage. I wasn't sure whether the ride quality was meant to be that hard, so I met up with a fellow Coop owner (OO7) who bought and fitted a Eibach/Billie set at the same time I did to see if the ride quality was the same on his car.... to which it was. I shall have to find out whether Chris cut his bump stops, I think he might have got Motormech to fit his edit: Going through my Personal Messages, this is what Chris said: Yes I got new Fiat rear bump stops fitted. Funny enough I was reading about some people trim the rear stops when fitting the Eibachs but ASAIK Motormech didn't do this.
However I'm not convinced this is a major problem as the rear feels as firm as the front when driving on 'normal' roads. The bump stop would only come into play if the car came down heavy on the shocks, like if you went over the crest of a hill and got a little air.
I'm starting to get used to it, or maybe it settling down. My main issue it the rattling form the interior which I think when fixed will oddly make the car feel a lot better as every shape jolt in the car wont be exaggerated by the sound of an explosion in the cab.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 15:57
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Brilliant So who has some bump stops they want to give me or sell to me? I can pick them up this evening if its not far? PM SENT Also do you think i could have caused any damage to the shocks/top mounts? It only happend a few times... ......you must have trashed them mate, i will swap them over with the knois tonight. cant have you on buggered shocks...
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 15:59
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Marco, you really think the Shocks will have been trashed
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
[Re: MarioCirillo]
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11/05/2011 16:02
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no he is trying to be funny... and thus implying that i give him my new shocks!
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 16:07
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Cheeky Git!
There was me feeling guilty that I sold them on and now they're trashed.
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Re: Billies and Eibach - Help
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11/05/2011 16:15
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Cheeky Git!
There was me feeling guilty that I sold them on and now they're trashed.
LMFAO!! since when do i get taken serious on here LMFAO!!! has the world stopped moving??
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