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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1194234
31/03/2011 02:15
31/03/2011 02:15
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fcck2000
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At least when I went out and paid for the prototype work I never gave buyers false information. The current seller on eBay is spouting complete bs about it being a performance manifold and asking £350 for it. I did all the leg work and then some dick finds my supplier and starts bugging up and putting the price up. These manifolds are worth £230 tops please don't be fooled. Paul
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1194685
31/03/2011 21:53
31/03/2011 21:53
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Posts: 6,192 Bristol, UK
Hovedan
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Over the years of selling this manifold I've replaced anyones manifold for free if it was faulty or failed, this is over and above the main dealer. Total replaced manifolds is about 5 which I'd say is quite good given the amount sold. I actually agree that the welds on YOUR manifold are poor, lets just say you had a Monday morning manifold. :-/
Paul, Have you been in contact with Truffle to rectify this? Its often been said on this forum that the true measure of a good Coupe specialist is not how many mistakes they make, but how they rectify the mistake once its happened Absolutely. And a yardstick in so many other fields.
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1194751
31/03/2011 23:16
31/03/2011 23:16
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knight7660
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nigel has hit it on the head there thats what makes a true specialist
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1194847
01/04/2011 00:43
01/04/2011 00:43
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Posts: 792 Stafford
sandytim
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Enjoying the ride
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It's been blowing for about 8-9 months, but had just been getting progressively more diesel like. If there's a moral to this story then it possibly lies above. I'm not saying there isn't a quality issue but it looks like the warning was there. I have one of these manifolds fitted and I'll certenly be keeping my ears peeled. But thats standard practice with any car,regardless of age.
Last edited by sandytim; 01/04/2011 17:38. Reason: spelling
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1194849
01/04/2011 00:48
01/04/2011 00:48
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Posts: 2,252 Windsor/ Reading
knight7660
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you say that but coupes are renowned for leaky manifolds, ive had 3 coupe and all of them at some point have had a stud go or a crack in the casting.
If some of the manifolds, if not all are as bad as the pics make out to be then the makers need briefing up about the quality.
either way good to see the problem is being voiced and sorted out instead of covered up.
Last edited by knight7660; 01/04/2011 00:53.
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1194894
01/04/2011 03:08
01/04/2011 03:08
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jonofitzer
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90% of the cast FIAT manifolds crack and break yet we dont go crying to fiat. This is the first most have heard about it and the maker has come out and addressed the issue.
Nigel is has hit the nail on the head
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1194929
01/04/2011 09:21
01/04/2011 09:21
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DaveG
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90% of the cast FIAT manifolds crack and break yet we dont go crying to fiat. Well we did initially and some of us got a replacement paid for as a good will gesture, thanks to the efforts of Nigel, and my "mark 3" replacement is still going fine. But that was a long time ago and the story is now legend...
1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus 2008 Ferrari F430 & 2017 Fiat 124 Spider
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1194954
01/04/2011 10:25
01/04/2011 10:25
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Posts: 6,192 Bristol, UK
Hovedan
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90% of the cast FIAT manifolds crack and break yet we dont go crying to fiat. This is the first most have heard about it and the maker has come out and addressed the issue.
Nigel is has hit the nail on the head In this case though, I don't believe the maker has done anything whatsoever to resolve it, he's merely agreed this was a bad example. Credit where credit's due, not when it's not ![rolleyes rolleyes](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) Nigel's comment still stands.
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1195595
02/04/2011 20:56
02/04/2011 20:56
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owl10
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owl10
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Went to see a coupe with a friend on the weekend.
Ex forum car (can't rmember the plate), been mapped by flea and had one of these manifolds.
Sounded like a tractor, though the price was right and was bought anyway. On taking off the heatshield today, the manifold has failed on the welds.
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1195627
02/04/2011 22:15
02/04/2011 22:15
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Alfa_Male
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Alfa_Male
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Seriously guys, stainless steel fatigues over a relatively short period of time depending on its grade. I certainly wouldn't use a stainless steel manifold on a turbo charged engine due to the excessive heat the engine produces.
You really are asking for trouble.
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1195670
02/04/2011 23:14
02/04/2011 23:14
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dlongstaff
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dlongstaff
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Just a comment. At work we got a fabricater in as we up against it. I showed him the pics and he said that stainless is not really the way to go with manifolds or exhausts for that matter! As they are prone to cracking, even with good welds. And suggested that they really need to be wrapped. I was kind of surprised as I thought stainless would be a fit and forget item that would out live the car. His background is motorsport, rollcages etc etc working on Colin McRaes cars and the like, so I guess he knows some.
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1195678
02/04/2011 23:35
02/04/2011 23:35
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dlongstaff
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dlongstaff
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Out of interest, is the flange stainless ? Just wondering as that's where it failed so badly
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1195841
03/04/2011 13:28
03/04/2011 13:28
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rmouthaan
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rmouthaan
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They usually use zinc plated mild steel flanges, and hopefully they grind off the zinc layer before welding? 304 is what they tell they are made off, but for sure it is the cheapest grade you can find over there. 321 it is surely not and never will be also with this manufacturer. By the looks of the weldfaillure at the flange, there is indeed no penetration at all, so the welder was actually not welding anything at all ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) . The crack at the collector looks alot like an stress crack, just like the oem ones do after hopefully a lot more km/s miles. 304 is indeed not the best material, but all others except steampipe are to expensive for most people. Regards remco
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1202938
16/04/2011 23:56
16/04/2011 23:56
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Johnny
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Johnny
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hmm, I have one of these manifolds and will now be keeping a worried keen eye on it. Its been fitted for 9 months now and done around 2.5k miles it is still holding up ok sofar and I do give it something to stress over once in a while ![wink wink](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1205796
23/04/2011 08:41
23/04/2011 08:41
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macchina
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macchina
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Hello, this is how paul treats people ho byes his goods. And I had to wait 6 months for my money from ebay/paypal !!
"You must be joking? You use my manifold that you have bought whilst you have your old one repaired and then expect me to give you a full refund. I'm very sorry but I cannot accept the damaged manifold if you have used and then damaged it. Regards Paul"
And this is what this poor boy says about me when he tryes to sell me his junk!
"First ebayer and what complete idiot never sell to him" Oct-04-10 10:37
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1206170
24/04/2011 02:47
24/04/2011 02:47
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Alfa_Male
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Sounds like a ![cloud9 cloud9](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cloud9.gif) .
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1207990
28/04/2011 18:07
28/04/2011 18:07
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PeteP
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Joe, you shouldn't have. ![ooo ooo](/forum/images/graemlins/default/ooo.gif) Diego is flogging this magnificent "collectors piece" manifold. Made out of top quality steel and designed for Lancia Delta Integrales and entirely arc welded with great care, it will give you complete satisfaction every day.
No modification is needed to fit it apart from moving the coolant radiator into the boot. ( A good weeks work will see it all done.)
I have put up this advert for my loyal friend Diego, who, alas does not know how to write properly.
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We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Countrycruising]
#1210311
04/05/2011 22:20
04/05/2011 22:20
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Posts: 315 Kent
Rob_78
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I too have had problems with the stainless manifold I bought.
I fitted it while the engine was out of the coop & less than 6months & less than 1000 miles it was blowing !!
Took it off to find that the 5th branch (gearbox side) had cracked all the way around the weild & blown part of it out. Also found cracking along the weild where the manifold joins the turbo.
Had to buy another standard manifold from a helpful specialist that was over £200 inc postage with a Fiat 3 plated metal manifold gasket & all is ok now.
I'm pi**ed off that I paid for a crap manifold that also didn't seal to the cylinder head with the gasket supplied.
My 2 pennies worth.
LE 557 - full on resteration in progress
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Re: Major manifold failure
[Re: Richard24]
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06/05/2011 16:30
06/05/2011 16:30
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macchina
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macchina
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Mine begun leaking after 2 hours... ![frown frown](/forum/images/graemlins/default/frown.gif)
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1241389
25/07/2011 14:28
25/07/2011 14:28
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Panik
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Panik
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Mine has been sounding like a diesel for the last three months as far as i can see its cracked around one of the welds on the far right, can't see the turbo flange so i don't know if thats still holding. |But at the moment it doesn't sound like theres an exhaust attached when it starts.
not best pleased
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Re: Major manifold failure
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#1243371
30/07/2011 13:46
30/07/2011 13:46
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Posts: 315 Kent
Rob_78
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Best thing you can do is stick a standard manifold (thats not cracked) & a metal fiat gasket back on ! It's got better flow than the one you have at the mo Then you use the expensive bit of metal you take off as a door stop as thats all thats going to happen to it ![rolleyes rolleyes](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif)
LE 557 - full on resteration in progress
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