i mean that whips and chains thing you keep sending me photos of...
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how do i get on this marco?

I have one of these.

are these the ones sold in the group buy a year or so ago?

Yes I believe so.

I think there have been a couple of group buys on them. One a good while ago, and then again, like you say, about a year or so ago.

I bought mine as an one off, from him directly.

I saw this yesterday, pretty shocking really and a extra cost for the owner for something that he thought was sorted! I see that they are also currently being sold on ebay!

I certainly won't be entertaining these guy's.

Hope you give the engine bay a quick clean while you were there

The engine bay is the least of your worries when it comes to car care! lmao

Not impressed by the swirlies, chips, dings and whatnot then?

Each to their own Truf, each to their own

I'm hoping this applies only to the 20v version as I think mine came from the same seller. I've only had it fitted for a couple of months and not back on the road yet

How quickly did it 'let go' Truff? i.e. has it been blowing for a while and then bang - tractor sound....

It's been blowing for about 8-9 months, but had just been getting progressively more diesel like.

It was a real shame as Joe fitter a nice Supersprint exhaust to the car after my back box succumbed to rust, and you just couldn't hear anything like an exhaust note.

There was never a 'bang' moment becuase the last of the 'weld' was holding it in place, but when Joe undid the anchor support bolt, the last of the weld gave in an it dropped out.

I cant wait to get her back. It should be like a transformed car. Engine note, and a massive improvement to turbo spool up and fuel economy

I should say

I've gone back to cast original for a while now after suffering repeated weld cracking on a stainless one.

Argh! False alarm, i'm sitting here waiting for Joe to ring to tell me to come and pick up the car.

It just did, but it was VirginMedia

Wow!! I had a bit of female intuition* and pulled out of that group buy, I'm so glad I did.
Did they come with any warranty and has anyone contacted the guy selling these?



*The Mrs wouldn't let me buy one because we needed a new mattress!

Dunno about proper warranty, but the seller replaced one I had fitted after a crack appeared.

That was about 2 years ago.

Hope you getting more mileage out of it?

yes she is

What was the name of the seller?

I've already sent him a link to this thread

Hi.
Would of been nice to speak to me first but anyhow.
Yours was one of the very first I had made, these manifolds I've sold for around the £220 mark, having sold over 300 I'd say a few failing is not that bad. I'd expect with your post then at least 30 10% might come on and say what a bad experience they had.. seems none so far.
Please keep in mind these were sold as a "cheap" exchange for the standard manifold which costs around £600 and quite possibly would also crack in less time! with no warranty from main dealer.
Over the years of selling this manifold I've replaced anyones manifold for free if it was faulty or failed, this is over and above the main dealer. Total replaced manifolds is about 5 which I'd say is quite good given the amount sold.
I actually agree that the welds on YOUR manifold are poor, lets just say you had a Monday morning manifold. :-/
Just one more point which I think is very relevant, I've sold these manifolds to forum members at about £220 each, they are currently for sale by other retailers at 600 Euros!

Paul

Fair play to Paul for not running and hiding and for replacing the suspect manifolds.

There are some comments in one of the for sale posts. http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=96258&Number=1150627#Post1150627 and http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1064589&page=1 some say they are very good some say not impressed. Good price for the manifold though and to be fair even FIAT have struggled to make a reliable exhaust manifold for the Coupe.

I don't have the Stainless manifold so can't comment any further but I am watching this thread with some interest.

Apologies for being a numpty,
guys are these ok or not ok ?
Ebay Clicky

Its often been said on this forum that the true measure of a good Coupe specialist is not how many mistakes they make, but how they rectify the mistake once its happened

I have to say that I was astonished at the quality of the welding in the photos on this thread. However, if Paul arranges a rapid replacement, then I honestly don't think anyone can whinge too loudly.

I seem to recall that these manifolds were being sold as a "cheap-n-cheerful" replacement for the OE cast manifold - they were not being sold as a performance enhancement or even as a better quality replacement.

Its clear that the manifold shown was defective, and as such, it wasn't "fit for purpose" - If Paul has previously replaced manifolds with cracks, then this case should qualify for instant replacement.

Let's see what happens before we get too carried away

Paul I appreciate your response to this situation but the design, welding technique and materials being used for these manifolds just aren't up to the job, costs aren't relevant here.

Is that assumption on the basis of one failed manifold?

There's no assumption here Benje, it's not the first issue I've had with these manifolds, I posted this thread becasue this manifolds failure was so extreme and it could of cost the customer a lot more then just a replacement.

And it could have put a nasty bump on Joes forehead

First of all a thank you to Paul for replying to the various post's about the said manifold.
I feel that his point about a possible 10% could have been faulty and that he has replaced 5 units or so is a bit misleading or possibly misleading.
We have to allow for the selling on of coupe's that then have faulty manifolds and then replaced by new owners.Please remember that there will be owners that think the manifold is a standard part,also owners that do not visit this forum.
The failure could be much higher,we will never know as they wont all be flagged up by owners,just replaced.
The whole coupe manifold situation is one we have to live and deal with one at a time.