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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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17/03/2011 14:16
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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17/03/2011 20:31
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That looks pretty good
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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18/03/2011 18:50
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MMS piccy from Taffy earlier: that does look very nice just a shame i'v got a widget otherwise thats where i'd be putting mine .
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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18/03/2011 23:37
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What don't you put your widget in nismo???
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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21/03/2011 15:52
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Al_Galone
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So how many of you have installed this. And what are first impressions?
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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21/03/2011 23:15
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Al_Galone
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So looks like lots of guys has a problems?
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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22/03/2011 00:14
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Al_Galone
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OK then must be some people with positive expiriences?
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 10:21
22/03/2011 10:21
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Gunzi
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Has anybody else tried to fit their controller?
I've sent mine back and they've tested it and said it's fine. They sent me two videos one with it working and one mimicking the problem I've had. They've asked me to check my connections. I'm reluctant to get it sent back at my cost now the Pinin has had the same problem.
Pinin's ignition wire was fed into the electric window switch, mine was into the cig lighter (same as my head unit). Neither seem to work, and both seem to not allow the unit to have a memory.
Personally I'm going to get a refund. I've already spent £15 returning it to them and it'd cost me another £15 to get it back, then if I still can't get it to work it'll be another £15 to return it to them again, that's £45 on postage when the unit only cost £90.
Sorry chaps but I'm not happy that the first two units installed don't work correctly. At least not in our Coupes.
Last edited by Gunzi; 22/03/2011 10:33. Reason: more info
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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22/03/2011 11:29
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Where have you been feeding the permanent live from? Both my cig and head unit is permanent. Then I was going to take the ignition live from the window switch. I mIght try and put mine on a power supply today to see what happens, not sure if I can do much about the air side of things. Just not had any time of late, but possibly this weekend looked like it would go in. See what time I got after fitting the other bits. Sorry to hear about the first two fitted (we have heard about not working)
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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22/03/2011 11:42
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Al_Galone
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As far as I know window switch isnt permanent voltage wire, it gets the voltage after turning the key on.
I am looking at the install manual and did any of you guys tried to connect it exactly like it says:
Red wire to BATTERY + (direct connection to battery) Blue wire to IGNITION + (that one should be connected to window switch) Green wire to EARTH - (maybe your earth points are to week) The best way for me would be to guide two wires directly to battery and connect them on battery and third one to windows switch. This is how I plan to do it!
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 11:58
22/03/2011 11:58
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Gunzi
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To confirm I'd spliced the wiring like this:
HDI Red Wire (Perm live) -> head unit red wire HDI Black Wire (Earth) -> head unit black wire HDI Blue Wire (Switched live) -> cig lighter red/yellow wire.
The cig lighter in my car is a switched live wire (it's a yellow/red wire). I've got it hooked up to my head unit, so the head unit switches on and off with the ignition.
With the above configuration the HDI boost controller switches on and off with the ignition, meaning that it's wired into the ignition switch correctly, or else it would be on all the time. You can see this in the video I posted earlier in this thread. Each time the power is cut it automatically turns itself off (which is correct) and loses it's memory (which is not correct).
In the case of the video, you can see I turn the car on to ignition and select low boost. Then I start the car and it's instantly forgotten which setting I've chosen, forcing me to select it again, and making the loud beeping noise until I do.
I disconnected both the solenoid wiring and the boost hose and it still did the above.
Last edited by Gunzi; 22/03/2011 12:03.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 12:08
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Al_Galone
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Gunzi maybe it is just nothing but maybe it something, I was looking at your video and noticed that only when you press SEL button on HDI your head units gets power,it is also same when you turn on your car just after pressing the button and beep stops your ALPINE gets power. Maybe you should check that and maybe try to connect it to different power source. It is just a guess.... might help
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 12:29
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Gunzi
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hmmmm, I see what you mean, I hand't noticed that before. I was too caught up in the fact it wasn't working.
Could any one wire it straight to the battery and pick a switched live? It shouldn't make any difference whether the boost pipe is connected. The solenoid is only 1 connector to attach. I'd do it but mine is in HK!
Last edited by Gunzi; 22/03/2011 12:35.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 14:09
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Wow, the mine is still in the box, but after the issues here happened, checked it on desk power supply and it was ok. Another thing, maybe just different country version, but my windows, cig lighter and head unit are switched 12V; as proposed Al_Galone, it´s better connect it directly to the battery, at least to see the result, or maybe it´s volage drop issue (losing the memory on start up) similar to the HID flickering.
BTW, where are those clips?
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 15:56
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dlongstaff
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I just hooked it up to a supply. All seems to be ok! Think it prudent to hook up to the battery with an inline fuse and see how it goes.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
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22/03/2011 15:57
22/03/2011 15:57
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The Gixzzmo MS-IBC only has a switched live feed and remembers the settings, probably down to Non Volatile RAM.
Does the HDI one need a permanent lIve feed?
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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22/03/2011 17:55
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dlongstaff
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Not entirely sure why it needs memory? As the level is set on a potentiometer. One for low and another for high and switchable between the two.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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23/03/2011 07:43
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Al_Galone
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Guide two wires directly to Battery terminals and see what happens. For testing you can even guide trough window over the hood. I also think much of problems can be caused by wiring.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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23/03/2011 10:23
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Al_Galone
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Yes most of the cars including coupe will cut permanent live during starter motor work,that is why the best thing is to feed it directly from B+
Last edited by Al_Galone; 23/03/2011 10:24.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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23/03/2011 10:40
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dlongstaff
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...also, not sure for the coupe, but there are cars, where permanent live found under the dash will be cut by the ignition switch only during the starter motor is on, so there are +12V feeds which are not truely permanent. That's seems to be the case. After reading the two posts above I just tried mine. With the cd playing I turned the engine over and for less than a second it does indeed switch off and on. Something I had never noticed before, although never have the player left on scenario etc So guess it's down to the permanent live to be taken directly from battery as per instructions. I was going to do the same as Gunzi, so you have at least highlighted the potentional problem.
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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23/03/2011 13:36
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So does it have to be this way; ? HDI Red Wire (Perm live) -> direct to battery HDI Black Wire (Earth) -> any earth point or direct to a chassis earth point. HDI Blue Wire (Switched live) -> cig lighter or ignition or somthing like that ?? I'm hoping for those who have issues are able to get them resolved, i'll check this post to see updates regarding refits and if the buy continues. R00
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Re: HDI Boost controllers - the thread!
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23/03/2011 13:59
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dlongstaff
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So does it have to be this way; ? HDI Red Wire (Perm live) -> direct to battery HDI Black Wire (Earth) -> any earth point or direct to a chassis earth point. HDI Blue Wire (Switched live) -> cig lighter or ignition or somthing like that ?? I'm hoping for those who have issues are able to get them resolved, i'll check this post to see updates regarding refits and if the buy continues. R00 No black wire on mine Red-battery Blue-ignition (cig? or window switch) Green-earth
Last edited by dlongstaff; 23/03/2011 14:03. Reason: Had included message in quote
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