Just got the OBD2 to 3 pin adapter cable and tried it out on my 20v N/A. Startrek works great. Thanks Neil.

Just one question.
It showed error 41 - Water temperature sensor implausible - Air temp showed 22 and water temp 53 degrees at the time. Is the error likely to be a bad sensor, a stuck thermostat or is it normal to get an error like this now and again?

Interesting to know if this is error is common.

BTW the engine had only been running for a few minutes - hence 55 deg. Also no error light on although during the winter it came on for a few minutes and then went off again. That was usually when re-starting when engine was warmed up.

Thanks.

It's not that it was implausible *then* but that it had been implausible some time in the past. If an error is current, the message will be in read and the (xx) number will be 64 or greater.

The error will have been in yellow to indicate that it's history; the (41) tells you that the error occurred 64-41 starts ago. Nothing to worry about unless it makes a habit of it.

I've still not got this up and running yet, I just havent had the time to do it.

Thanks for the response about how to interpret the error message.

Nice bit of coding work, I'm sure its much appreciated by all.

so, who's working on a VIS version then?

(ps hey Neil, got me a new toy now :D)

Still not a coupe, though, from your signature?

Re the VIS - you're on your own. I've got the docs, but that's as far as I'm going... If it's post 2001, OBDII ought to work.

Nah, we needed something "practical", with a proper boot and fold down seats - which ruled out the Punto due to the roll cage Plus, well, if I were going coupe it would have to be a 20vt and I don't fancy taking the engine out every couple years to do the cam belt

...back on topic, mine's a 2000 with - what I believe to be - a Bosch ME3.1 Supposedly supported by FiatECUScan on the 156 V6, not had a chance to try yet on the Bravo yet.

See, you've been listening to them know-alls over on the Fiat Forum again, haven't you? Should have asked here, we'd have set you straight.

Just tried to get this working, but I get an error.

"Unable to open serial port; quiting..."

What gives?


*EDIT* Working now, instead of typing "Startrek Com5" I just typed "Startrek 5".

(I have renamed the program to "Startrek" to simplify things.)

Take the engine out?!? Even with my technical knowledge I can't help but who told you that

That's the official Fiat line

Is there any logging functionality built into the 20V command line interface? I tried redirecting the output to a file on the command line, but of course that doesn't work as the coloured output won't be written via stdout.

Presuming it doesn't exist I'd be quite happy to add this if I could find the source, but can only find the 16v version.

No, there's no logging. Shouldn't be difficult, with the source. Which ought to be on my site but appears to have got nibbled away by a passing okapi when I shifted hosts recently.

I'll get the source up soon.

Just FYI, the 16v console application has a dead link on your website, it points to "http://www.nailed-barnacle.co.uk/coupe/startrek/startrek_console.zip" but the actual file has the extension in upper case i.e. "startrek_console.ZIP".

Only found out through a lucky guess, as I've had this several times uploading pictures to my own webspace.

Yep, I need to tidy the whole area, thanks.

I moved from a brain dead windows server to a proper unix box, but transferred the data from a windows partition while in Linux... great potential for missing permissions and suchlike there.

hehe, sorry guys, that's the official line on mine too but there's enough room to shift the engine over a bit to get access - looking at the coupe engine bay, I didn't think there was and I'd not seen a guide for it so assumed it really was engine out - I'd seen it mentioned in a few places too

When a lot of garages are quoting around £300-350 for a cambelt change, that's a clear indication that it's no longer an engine out jobbie.

On the windows version of StarTrek, I've just bought myself a Samsung NC10 to carry on with development, it's got a decent battery life so I can decode the application while it's connected to the car, my Alienware laptop used to die after 30mins.

So I'll be carrying on with the work this week.

Right, now I've read through this thread and whilst some of it makes sense, a lot of it doesn't

I think I've ordered the right cables for this, but in the meantime, while I'm waiting for them to arrive, does anyone want to do a simple step by step guide on what to do, for simple people like me?

<cough>

Did we look in the FAQ, T?

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1022168#Post1022168

Hey surfer, looking forward to that. If battery life remains an issue check out eBay, for a charger that you plug into your cigarette lighter.

No, I hadn't, sorry

I'll have a read through that properly when I get the cables

Cheers Neil

Problem is solved with the netbook, battery life is 10hours!

It's just it's difficult to site my laptop comfortably enough to do the debugging with the car running.

I've now upgraded my netbook to a 500Gig Drive and 2 Gigs RAM, so it does pretty all that my heavy, hot Alienware does (except play Warcraft, but I'm getting bored with that now anyway).

Once the program's completed, it'll be easy to use, just one excutable to put anywhere you want, no dll's involved.

I keep my development version in 'My Documents.
The program should end up about 2 Mbytes when it's finished, so not a big demand on your profile resources.

You will still have to setup the drivers for the cable, and its COM port, both for windows and my application(just a choiced from a drop-down list)

cant wait to see it

You'll all have to bear with me, I've got more serious matters on my mind at the moment.

I have been working on my bike today, MoT time, but I get tired quickly.

Fist of all.. big thank you Barnacle!

This works very well & easy to set up too.

Just tried it for the first time with engine ticking over.

Battery a bit high at 14.1V

+ these 2 errors

(65) Timing variator open circuit (in red!)
(58) Air flow meter s/c to 12v (in yellow)

Now i'm worried! ... should i be?
I read somewhere about timing variator being off when idling, but presume this isn't the problem.

I'm currently having some issues with my coup, which is a little high on the tuning side!

Any help would be much appreciated!

The one in red is a current error; the yellow one occurred a couple of days ago, at a guess - six starts ago.

I'd check the connector on the variator and make sure it's on properly - it's the one in the middle of the injectors, I think. And you could get a meter onto the contacts of the variator and make sure there's some impedance there.

Cheers matey will do that.

I suffering from low pressure & oily intercooler atm... wondering whether this could be part of the picture.

Thanks again for devving this mate... drove home with it plugged in last night with me lady monitoring all the way.

Noticed that temp is constantly about 10 degrees higher on ECU than on temp gauge. Time for a new stat too possibly?!

Would not have thought that the oil and variator would be related - oily intercooler can only have come from the turbo, I think.

The temperature reads higher on almost all coupes on the ECU than the gauge; they're different sensors and on some models in different places. Nothing to worry about there.

Thanks for that matey. I have posted a new thread on my problems in the right area now. Sorry for clog up this thread

im testing the software startrek409 on fiat tempra, here in brazil. the ecu is marelli p8. it works great in windows, but i cant make work on ubuntu (linuxice). the error message is "im sorry - i cant find any serial or usb ports. please attach one and restart the program.". i did everything: virtual link on dosservices directory, start the startrekconsole, and iam sure that my serial usb adapter is on ttyUSB0.
PLEASE, i need some help...

thanks a lot