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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
[Re: Nigel]
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13/04/2010 12:50
13/04/2010 12:50
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777james777
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777james777
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it was just my luck that leighton's normal dyno was closed when i went for my remap...it would have been a fair comparison to the first set of figures i attained in october...
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
[Re: Nigel]
#1019103
13/04/2010 13:16
13/04/2010 13:16
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777james777
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777james777
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Well its a good sign that whats showing on the graph is correct ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) it would be nice to have the figures to do justice to the condition and mods ive got on my engine ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019135
13/04/2010 14:02
13/04/2010 14:02
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777james777
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777james777
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He ran it until it bounced off the limiter...
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019137
13/04/2010 14:03
13/04/2010 14:03
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777james777
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777james777
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What is strange is that i dont remember him going to the back of the car to strap it down...he seemed to concentrate all his efforts on the nsf wheel area...my friend steve came with me and if he is reading this id appreciate confirmation of this...i may have missed other stuff... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/monktoncombe/007.jpg
Last edited by 777james777; 13/04/2010 14:31.
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
[Re: ikon]
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13/04/2010 14:33
13/04/2010 14:33
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777james777
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777james777
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Yeah but Stevie we had that little window we could almost see through... ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019168
13/04/2010 14:46
13/04/2010 14:46
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Steve_G
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Steve_G
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You don't need to strap the rear
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019177
13/04/2010 14:54
13/04/2010 14:54
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777james777
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777james777
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So just a strap somewhere at the NSF is sufficient?
Also is it normal to have the ABS light on afterwards? It turned off when we started driving out of the garage
Last edited by 777james777; 13/04/2010 14:56.
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019182
13/04/2010 15:07
13/04/2010 15:07
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Steve_G
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Steve_G
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No and Maybe.
Depends what perameters bring on the ABS light, many will come on with the fronts doing 100 and the rears 0 but will need a cycle to reset.
I.E ford require an ignition cycle and over 7 mph speed on all 4 wheels. I used to turn on the ABS light all the time on two poster ramps.
But i DON'T know fiats ABS system, so may not be similar.
Steve
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019194
13/04/2010 15:36
13/04/2010 15:36
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777james777
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777james777
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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13/04/2010 17:20
13/04/2010 17:20
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TurboJ
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TurboJ
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To me the data and results looks genunine. I think people are looking to pick holes because it didn't make par with what it "should have made".
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019261
13/04/2010 17:46
13/04/2010 17:46
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spit
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spit
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Surely you should get the same or even better figures with a standard set up though after a flea map ?
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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13/04/2010 17:53
13/04/2010 17:53
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Johna
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Johna
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Every car Is different but with that set up it should be least 280bhp
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019271
13/04/2010 18:03
13/04/2010 18:03
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777james777
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777james777
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Last time I made 284bhp and 293lb/ft on one run and 279bhp and 279lb/ft on the next run. This time I have a better fuel regulator and a sports cat...bit more boost and ignition advance...I expected to make at least the same again! ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019282
13/04/2010 18:24
13/04/2010 18:24
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Gogs
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Gogs
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it looks like a dodgy dyno theres a massive difference between the whp and flywheel power 60hp on a fwd car is far to much
my r32 gtr had a 60hp difference between 4whp and flywheel hp looking at the whp your car should have about 230hp 240hp at the flywheel
did they change the fueling? it might be running far to rich now causing the power loss does the car feel any slower? with the mods your cars got it should be 250+ whp
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
[Re: Flea]
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13/04/2010 19:25
13/04/2010 19:25
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doug20vt
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does the car feel faster now, if it does I wouldnt worry to much about the dyno figures
of course if you can get the car on the same dyno then regardless of whether it is optimistic or not you will be able to see how the changes you have made have affected the power and torque
if fleas telling you your car is faster than a stage 1 then it will be regardless of what the dyno says
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
[Re: Flea]
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13/04/2010 19:30
13/04/2010 19:30
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777james777
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777james777
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I'm happy the car is running right and Leighton did a very good job ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) it pulls well and gives me a nice surprise sometimes when I put my foot down. Everything is always as it was and was very surprised to be so disappointed yesterday ![frown frown](/forum/images/graemlins/default/frown.gif) I mean I need to move a few places up on leighton's league table ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) I'm going either get down to Leighton's dyno or I'll visit 'enhanced performance' in bolney once they have installed their dyno dynamics rolling road...as I said before numbers are just numbers but just out of principle it's nice to have confirmation on paper...if you know what I mean ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019385
13/04/2010 21:12
13/04/2010 21:12
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spit
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spit
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If it was me and the RR graphs showed those figures after all those mods..........I would still be peed off even if it felt like it could fly at Mach3 and orbit the earth.....running on orange juice
Last edited by spit; 13/04/2010 21:13.
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019414
13/04/2010 21:49
13/04/2010 21:49
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777james777
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777james777
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Haha you understand me! ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) even worse when you know they can't be true!
Last edited by 777james777; 13/04/2010 22:07.
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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14/04/2010 16:34
14/04/2010 16:34
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777james777
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777james777
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I'm booked in at leighton's dyno next Tuesday ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019848
14/04/2010 16:43
14/04/2010 16:43
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spit
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spit
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Level playing field now my son.....that's where a lot of people here have had their dyno's done.
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019869
14/04/2010 17:15
14/04/2010 17:15
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777james777
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777james777
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Yeah so fingers crossed. I'll be very confused if that dyno tells me that my car is making less than it did last time I was there as the car should be a bit better in every way now ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1019924
14/04/2010 18:58
14/04/2010 18:58
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doug20vt
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i would go by the lower figures your insurance will be less lol
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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14/04/2010 19:08
14/04/2010 19:08
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spit
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spit
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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14/04/2010 20:37
14/04/2010 20:37
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777james777
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777james777
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Well if they work out my premium at £1 per bhp I don't mind that either way ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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15/04/2010 04:32
15/04/2010 04:32
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Matty
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Matty
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No and Maybe.
Depends what perameters bring on the ABS light, many will come on with the fronts doing 100 and the rears 0 but will need a cycle to reset.
I.E ford require an ignition cycle and over 7 mph speed on all 4 wheels. I used to turn on the ABS light all the time on two poster ramps.
But i DON'T know fiats ABS system, so may not be similar.
Steve Indeed, most ABS lights come on after a Dyno visit, especially FWD and RWD vehicles. 60bhp coastdown loss, hmmmm lovely if you want 'pub' flywheel figures! No need to strap the rear of the Coupé down as it's FWD.
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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#1020141
15/04/2010 06:34
15/04/2010 06:34
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777james777
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777james777
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"60bhp coastdown loss, hmmmm lovely if you want 'pub' flywheel figures!"
sorry I don't understand...
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Re: my disappointing rolling road results
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15/04/2010 11:22
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Every dyno run I've ever had has come up with the same coastdown losses. 60bhp seems about right at the rev limit, with about 45bhp at 6,000rpms.
F****** b****** thing...
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