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#1609208 - 08/10/2017 22:08 Mid chassis brace
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Anyone used one of these and did you notice any benefits from it.
looks like a good piece of kit.

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#1609210 - 09/10/2017 06:13 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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The only flex in the Coupe body is a twisting motion, and that brace won't do anything to stop it

It's purely cosmetic IMHO

What that brace is supposedly doing is preventing floor flex - it is holding the two b-pillars steady, at the floor level....

The only way to properly stiffen the Coupe shell is with a full cage
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#1609221 - 09/10/2017 10:35 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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Thanks Nigel
saves me buying it for no benefit, is Omp the only makers for the roll cage.
Thanks

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#1609225 - 09/10/2017 12:02 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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I believe Omp is the only maker but it would not pass scrutiny in competion.

It would be a good starting point but you would then need a fabricator to upgrade it to competion standard.

Or have a bespoke one made.
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#1609228 - 09/10/2017 12:31 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: magooagain]
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Originally Posted By magooagain
I believe Omp is the only maker but it would not pass scrutiny in competion.

It would be a good starting point but you would then need a fabricator to upgrade it to competion standard.

Or have a bespoke one made.


Search for "begbie" on this forum - he runs a 16VT with a full cage - not sure who made it

EDIT - found the thread - Begbie's cage is an OMP item

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1465033&page=1


Edited by Nigel (09/10/2017 12:34)
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#1609239 - 09/10/2017 15:04 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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Hi Nigel

What's the strut brace you make?

Price and fitment ?

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#1609242 - 09/10/2017 15:14 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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Mine is Omp also.
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#1609249 - 09/10/2017 16:24 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Benharris24]
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Originally Posted By Benharris24
Hi Nigel

What's the strut brace you make?

Price and fitment ?


I designed a lower subframe brace - probably had about 70-80 of them made over a couple of years, but I haven't had any done for a while now. The demand has dried up and they have to be made in batches of 10 or more to keep the price reasonable

They definitely make a difference, especially on high-power Coupes

They crop up secondhand every now and then - price seems to range from £75 to £125 depending on condition
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#1609308 - 10/10/2017 14:12 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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I have acquired one with a recent coupe purchase so am tempted to fit it as the car is running circa 310bhp

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#1609316 - 10/10/2017 16:13 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Benharris24]
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Originally Posted By Benharris24
I have acquired one with a recent coupe purchase so am tempted to fit it as the car is running circa 310bhp


310bhp isn't high enough as recall readit

Probably best that you sell it on laugh

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#1609317 - 10/10/2017 16:14 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Trappy]
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Originally Posted By Trappy
Originally Posted By Benharris24
I have acquired one with a recent coupe purchase so am tempted to fit it as the car is running circa 310bhp


310bhp isn't high enough as recall readit

Probably best that you sell it on laugh


First dibs on the Nigel lower strut brace!! judge
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#1609318 - 10/10/2017 16:21 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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Lol wink

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#1609322 - 10/10/2017 16:50 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Benharris24]
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Originally Posted By Benharris24
I have acquired one with a recent coupe purchase so am tempted to fit it as the car is running circa 310bhp


Is it new and un-fitted?
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#1609386 - 11/10/2017 13:49 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By Nigel
Originally Posted By Benharris24
I have acquired one with a recent coupe purchase so am tempted to fit it as the car is running circa 310bhp


Is it new and un-fitted?
What are you fishing for Nigel?
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#1609395 - 11/10/2017 14:13 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
patrickstar Offline
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I was lucky enough to find one on ebay a couple of years ago unused.
Makes a difference.
would love a roll cage, seems like a right pain to prep and install.

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#1609399 - 11/10/2017 15:20 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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I've seen some installed very well indeed. Mine not so much! But its a track car.

But I have learnt a fair bit by doing my own.


Edited by magooagain (11/10/2017 16:31)
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#1609406 - 11/10/2017 16:08 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Begbie]
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Originally Posted By Begbie
What are you fishing for Nigel?


Just interested me if someone had spent the money, but never fitted it

I didn't really anticipate that they would carry any real value, but it would appear that demand is easily outstripping supply, so I can see that a brand new subframe brace might easily fetch more than I used to sell them for
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#1609418 - 11/10/2017 19:48 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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Oi Alexis, how long have you been in Sandhurst? Did you spend that inheritance on a nice new house?
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#1609443 - 12/10/2017 09:01 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: DaveG]
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Originally Posted By Nigel
Originally Posted By Begbie
What are you fishing for Nigel?


Just interested me if someone had spent the money, but never fitted it

I didn't really anticipate that they would carry any real value, but it would appear that demand is easily outstripping supply, so I can see that a brand new subframe brace might easily fetch more than I used to sell them for

Ah right, thought you were after one so you could make another batch up wink But I also fall into the category of having your brace, but not actually fitting it smile

Originally Posted By DaveG
Oi Alexis, how long have you been in Sandhurst? Did you spend that inheritance on a nice new house?

Been here since Dec last year. In-laws house, so just paying minimal money to stay here, whilst the in-laws retire in Spain. Inheritance hasn't come through yet and probate has only just been granted
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#1609445 - 12/10/2017 10:03 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Begbie]
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Originally Posted By Begbie

Ah right, thought you were after one so you could make another batch up wink


I was wondering (hoping) the same! frown

Originally Posted By Begbie

But I also fall into the category of having your brace, but not actually fitting it smile


What!? Why not? YHPM thumb
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#1609446 - 12/10/2017 10:16 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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I'm sure I have a few of these braces in stock somewhere chinny
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#1609451 - 12/10/2017 12:11 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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I got one in the garage!,
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#1609455 - 12/10/2017 13:16 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: magooagain]
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This thread is testament to how good this brace is... Not only are people still hankering after them 10 odd years after they were sold, but they're capable of improving handling without even being bloody fitted!! curse
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#1609458 - 12/10/2017 14:32 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Trappy]
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Originally Posted By Trappy
This thread is testament to how good this brace is... Not only are people still hankering after them 10 odd years after they were sold, but they're capable of improving handling without even being bloody fitted!! curse







hehe hehe hehe driving wave
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#1609466 - 12/10/2017 15:56 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: magooagain]
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Originally Posted By magooagain
Originally Posted By Trappy
This thread is testament to how good this brace is... Not only are people still hankering after them 10 odd years after they were sold, but they're capable of improving handling without even being bloody fitted!! curse







hehe hehe hehe driving wave

He's just narked I won't sell him mine hehe
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#1609477 - 12/10/2017 18:29 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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#1609484 - 12/10/2017 20:10 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
magooagain Offline
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Yes I saw that on someone's thred about thier handling,might of been on a French forum recently.


Edited by magooagain (12/10/2017 20:10)
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#1609493 - 12/10/2017 22:51 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: patrickstar]
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I will fit mine after I have restored the suspension

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#1609505 - 13/10/2017 09:31 Re: Mid chassis brace [Re: Begbie]
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Originally Posted By Begbie

He's just narked I won't sell him mine hehe


Oh tongue
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