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Price for belts and clutch on 20vt?

Posted By: Dazvr6

Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/10/2013 17:08

As title really.
I'm looking at a car with a slipping clutch and the belts are due as well.
Whats the going rate for the work and should I get the waterpump done as well?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/10/2013 17:29

Belts c£500 or more, always get the water pump done because if you don't and it starts leaking, as my yellow one did, you have to do the belts again..... rolleyes
Posted By: magooagain

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/10/2013 17:43

You have to be looking at about £900 or £1,000 for those two jobs. Supply and fixed by a specialist.
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/10/2013 21:44

Originally Posted By: magooagain
You have to be looking at about £900 or £1,000 for those two jobs. Supply and fixed by a specialist.


Ouch. Thats more than I expected tbh!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/10/2013 21:52

Yep £835 is the cheapest I've seen so far for belts, pump and clutch.
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/10/2013 22:02

The belts I might attempt myself but not the clutch.
Time for some more reading up!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 00:06

Good plan. laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 08:38

To be fair after an £835 spend that's 2 big jobs out of the way.
I'm guessing the car is going cheaper as it needs these doing?
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 10:31

I think I could get it for £750!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 11:32

So for £1600 you could have a 20vt with fresh belts and a clutch. As long as the car is OK in all other areas it would be a good buy smile

You could buy a £1600 coupe that still might need these in the next year or so.
Posted By: daithi28

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 12:57

I'd also recommend getting the cam sensor replaced at the same time as the belts.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 13:47

The list is growing. Still, I'd rather run a 20VT than a twin spark GTV any day! (or an RX8 for that matter :D)
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 14:00

It's running over 300 ponies Dan so the clutch is giving in I think, but it has a noisy waterpump so I will need to do belts anyway. The body seems pretty straight and the interior is good too.

I'm hoping to get more than 13 mpg out of a 20v Phil!

Is the cam sensor a pig to get at then daithi?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 17:46

Cam sensor is best done when changing the belts, otherwise the belts have to come off anyway to get at it, i believe
Posted By: szkom

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 17:54

And you need to take the exhaust pulley off. Carefully too otherwise you damage the sensor pick up.
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 29/10/2013 21:00

sounds nasty!
Could be worth doing then.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 30/10/2013 18:56

Despite the forum technical page grumbles its rare for a phase sensor or pump to cause issues.


So save £200 and stick with the belts and clutch which will set you back £700 all inc.
Posted By: knight7660

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 30/10/2013 20:36

Originally Posted By: proccy
Cam sensor is best done when changing the belts, otherwise the belts have to come off anyway to get at it, i believe


il second that. i know a few people that didnt then regretted it with in the same year
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 30/10/2013 22:20

Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
Despite the forum technical page grumbles its rare for a phase sensor or pump to cause issues.


So save £200 and stick with the belts and clutch which will set you back £700 all inc.


Thats a good price but the seller is saying the waterpump is grumbling so it would make sense to change it at the same time?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 31/10/2013 07:41

More than likely the aux tensioners or the timing idler that's causing the noise.
I've only ever done a handful of pumps for leaking in 15 years and do maybe 2 phase sensors a year and see on average 200 coupes per year.

I would certainly put more emphasis on the auxiliary side as that's a known failure .
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 01/11/2013 10:00

Would a standard clutch be ok for a 300+bhp car?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 01/11/2013 15:52

depends on the turbo / power delivery, and how much over 300 bhp!

Alfa GTA clutch is a straight fit, and holds a little more than stock 20VT clutch, will be ok for 300bhp as long as you dont launch the c*ap out of the car all the time, and the turbo spool is not very 'thumpy'. laugh

Anything more than this level and the clutch cost jumps quote a bit.
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 01/11/2013 16:25

Looks like it's sold but he reckoned it was over 320. GT28, front mount, full stainless, induction kit and live map.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 01/11/2013 18:08

Originally Posted By: suba
depends on the turbo / power delivery, and how much over 300 bhp!

Alfa GTA clutch is a straight fit, and holds a little more than stock 20VT clutch, will be ok for 300bhp as long as you dont launch the c*ap out of the car all the time, and the turbo spool is not very 'thumpy'. laugh

Anything more than this level and the clutch cost jumps quote a bit.


Valeo stock clutch will be fine with 300bhp

Disregard my prices as I'm solid till may next year but might be worth contacting Motormech to see if they can compete with prices and availability.


Again the Alfa Gta clutch is a downgrade not an upgrade.
Doesn't have the clamping force the coupe clutch does,and has been discussed many a time.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 02/11/2013 13:14

I'm so out of date.... laugh. I guess my GTA clutch did have a heavier cover on it back when I had a coupe though. smile
Posted By: Dill

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 02/11/2013 19:02

Go with everything that john says I say! He did mine earlier in the year before really sorting the car out in the summer...transformation. I'd better book mine in for next year's work planned soon then JC!!;-)
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 06/11/2013 10:02

^^
I will definitely listen to any advice from JC and the other respected members on here as I know very little about the coupe! I've got my eye on one though so watch this space. laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 27/12/2013 15:35

can you fit that clutch on 20vt?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALFA-ROMEO-156...=item5d46d9080f
Posted By: magooagain

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/12/2013 08:40

I have one for sale. You have a private message from me
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 09/01/2014 11:05

JBT did my belts and clutch for well under a grand. I'd recommend him if you're close by (Staffs is close enough I'd think?)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 09/01/2014 20:21

Belts are £300 (genuine Fiat belt kit)
Clutch is £400 (genuine valeo clutch)
The two done at the same time is £600 all inc parts labour and vat as it makes my life easier therefor you pay less .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 09/01/2014 23:32

Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
Belts are £300 (genuine Fiat belt kit)
Clutch is £400 (genuine valeo clutch)
The two done at the same time is £600 all inc parts labour and vat as it makes my life easier therefor you pay less .


Is that that all three belts? All genuine fiat? What about the auxillery tensioners?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 09/01/2014 23:52

Both aux belts included yes.
Auxiliary idler/tensioners inspected but replacement is additional.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 11/01/2014 09:36

Don't forget the water pump.... wink
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 14/01/2014 21:11

That's a great price for clutch and belts you would not get that done up here in Scotland for anything like that price
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? - 28/01/2014 13:08

As I said, If you're within 50 miles of JBT, go there.
(I'm actually 60miles away!)
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