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Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 13:26
06/02/2013 13:26
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R31982
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Hi guys, my newly acquired Coop is starting to get under my skin now, so I am looking at splashing some cash on her.
Coming from a Type R Accord that had lots of money spent on it, I am used to good brakes. I ran Ferodo DS2500 pads on her with Bremtech grooved disks. Not only did these last me years, they performed VERY well, especially when hot.
I believe the Coop is running Pagid pads and some noddy disks at the moment. As soon as they get warm they judder like hell and are, well, pish poor!
What setup do you guys recommend? I feel that the Brembo calipers are constantly moaning about the quality of parts they have to work with at the moment.
Cheers all,
Rob.
Last edited by R31982; 06/02/2013 13:27.
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 13:55
06/02/2013 13:55
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You'll get lots of opinions, but here's mine:-
For years, I ran Pagid Yellows, including on track. They never faded, despite some very serious provocation
I'm now running Carbotech - they feel as good as Pagid Yellow when there's some heat in them, but they're less good from cold. Carbotech also squeal terribly - I can get squeal when braking at motorway speeds - normally squeal is only at low speed/light load
As for discs, there is a lot of choice, but many have been proven to be incapable of withstanding the abuse that Coupes inflict (wheelarch design means that cooling is poor, especially on the inner face)
DBA 4000 are the only discs I have actually worn out - all the rest have died through warping. Having said that, I'm 4000 miles into a set of cheap M-Tec discs and they are still straight - the only problem being that the grooves are quite wide, meaning they are noisy and the grooves don't go to the edge of the disc, so they have a moment's hesitation in the wet.
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Re: Best front brakes?
[Re: Nigel]
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06/02/2013 17:48
06/02/2013 17:48
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You'll get lots of opinions, but here's mine:-
I'm now running Carbotech - they feel as good as Pagid Yellow when there's some heat in them I've gone through multiple sets of both yellowstuffs and now Carbotech XP10's Nigel, I'm surprised you haven't noticed the difference in stopping power when warm, particularly on track. It really is like night and day. And of course, in my opinion!
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 18:20
06/02/2013 18:20
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R31982
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It's more the disks I am interested in at the moment guys, as the juddering does my knackers in!
I am very tempted to go for my DS2500 pads again.
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06/02/2013 18:34
06/02/2013 18:34
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You won't go wrong with DS2500. As Nigel says, the MTEC discs work well but are noisy
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 19:37
06/02/2013 19:37
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They are difficult, if not impossible to get hold of though - maybe its time we commissioned DBA to make some....
We can but try . Going by their reputation....I'd definately be up for it as I'm currently speccing up a good combination and these sound ideal...
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 19:45
06/02/2013 19:45
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They are difficult, if not impossible to get hold of though - maybe its time we commissioned DBA to make some....
We can but try . Going by their reputation....I'd definately be up for it as I'm currently speccing up a good combination and these sound ideal... I made an enquiry late last year, and was quoted around £300 a set for an order of 10 sets. Would struggle to get enough interest at that mark, so left it at that.
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 20:15
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jon13
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They are difficult, if not impossible to get hold of though - maybe its time we commissioned DBA to make some....
We can but try . Going by their reputation....I'd definately be up for it as I'm currently speccing up a good combination and these sound ideal... I made an enquiry late last year, and was quoted around £300 a set for an order of 10 sets. Would struggle to get enough interest at that mark, so left it at that. Maybe we should do a poll Dan?I know i'm only one but there are plenty of likely candidates on here...Who knows, we might surprise ourselves and get a level of interest shown, , potentially lowering the price a little more? I'm guessing that was just the fronts?
Last edited by jon13; 06/02/2013 20:23.
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06/02/2013 20:57
06/02/2013 20:57
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THE_G
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im also in need of new discs an pads and thinking of chucking any old drilled an grooved ones on purely for the looks with decent pads
not fussed if they last or if they are upto racetrack performance just decent braking from cold is all i need
i never hammer the car enough for long enough to really worry about fade , will make some mods for cooling though but would be good to see more opinions on the cheaper and easier to get hold of discs out there
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 21:20
06/02/2013 21:20
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They are difficult, if not impossible to get hold of though - maybe its time we commissioned DBA to make some....
We can but try . Going by their reputation....I'd definately be up for it as I'm currently speccing up a good combination and these sound ideal... I made an enquiry late last year, and was quoted around £300 a set for an order of 10 sets. Would struggle to get enough interest at that mark, so left it at that. Maybe we should do a poll Dan?I know i'm only one but there are plenty of likely candidates on here...Who knows, we might surprise ourselves and get a level of interest shown, , potentially lowering the price a little more? I'm guessing that was just the fronts? Did someone ask for a poll?! Mods - can we have a poll to gauge interest in a set of DBA front wiperslots discs at £317 (just dug out email)?
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Re: Best front brakes?
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06/02/2013 21:45
06/02/2013 21:45
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I used DS 2500 pads and there good value for money and highly recommended. If your really wanting to a use the brakes with confidence then get pagid carbon RS orange. Awesome.last forever,and never fade even with my driving style around the track . Not cheap at £300 a set but well worth it.
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06/02/2013 22:16
06/02/2013 22:16
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jonone
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I briefly had the idea of getting the 305mm dba discs from the gtv etc and re-drilling them to 4x98.
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07/02/2013 08:59
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Biggenz
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The 330mm Alfa GTA discs/callipers are a wicked upgrade. About a £1000 new but you can sometimes find a bargain second hand.
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07/02/2013 10:57
07/02/2013 10:57
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knight7660
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same as biggens with carbotec pads
sparco used the calipers on his race car and he gave them a right kicking.
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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Re: Best front brakes?
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07/02/2013 11:41
07/02/2013 11:41
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jonone
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I should add I actually have the Best brakes available for sale soon, sparcos time attack brembos with 2 piece brembo NASCAR discs and pagid yellow pads. Little plug
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07/02/2013 12:18
07/02/2013 12:18
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Per
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Per
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Ooohh. (I should add I use 3G disc's with Carbotech XP8 pads - have been very good, but my latest engine upgrades have ended their lives quickly.)
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#1409511
07/02/2013 14:17
07/02/2013 14:17
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Nello
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MTEC have launched a new website and are offering 10% off all discs at the moment....... £76 for fronts including shipping
Last edited by Nello; 07/02/2013 14:22.
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Re: Best front brakes?
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07/02/2013 15:26
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R31982
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Is that for a pair???? *Dreaming*
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#1409531
07/02/2013 15:47
07/02/2013 15:47
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The 330mm Alfa GTA discs/callipers are a wicked upgrade. About a £1000 new but you can sometimes find a bargain second hand. You will also need 17" wheels as well if you upgrade and don't have them already
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07/02/2013 16:29
07/02/2013 16:29
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R31982
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No way? It states quantity on the online order form....it doesn't mention anything about it being a pair?!
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07/02/2013 16:31
07/02/2013 16:31
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Nello
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Is that for a pair???? *Dreaming* Yep per pair - your choice of Drilled/Grooved or both There was a Group Buy on here a while ago ran by Deannn_20VT - similar prices then
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Re: Best front brakes?
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07/02/2013 16:58
07/02/2013 16:58
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R31982
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I think it will be a pair of grooved only! Happy days, the shopping list is building!
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07/02/2013 17:43
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Per
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That's a nice price! But.. Seems they only have grooved & drilled?
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07/02/2013 18:39
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Nello
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Nello
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Yes as Dean says - use the drop down to select which style you want...
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