FCCUK Rolling Road day - Aberdeen - 5th of July

Right guys as posted in the other thread I'm organising a Rolling Road day for us at my work.

Price would be £30 max, with me taking AFR and boost readings - others can be obatained, ie injector duty, air intake etc etc. Please can I ask you to make sure your car is mechanically sound, I'm sure they all will be anyway!

I'm looking for you guys to tell me when is best, an evening or weekend. If it was a Sunday we could make a good day of it by putting on a BBQ or something, I'm open to suggestions.

Saturday the 5th of July '08 @10am

Interested

Mattb
Tartandude
Baz
Sparky
Doug
Kelv
Ross
Fran
Jim

Any time is good for me, although I’d hazard a weekend is best given that lots of these people live at least a couple of hours drive away!

weekend would probably be best for me as well although could make it through the week as well if weekend not available, bbq or something sounds good as well

that sounds like a cool idea!
another silly bit, where abouts would it be?!

actually just looked at the locations of people, could it be the land of the skirts wearing dudes?!

Yes it'll be in Aberdeen

Might want to amend the title - stop all us Southerners checking out this post and asking

Good Idea

i think that is a good looong drive away from me....

A Saturday or Sunday would be fine for me. Hoping to get my turbo and stuff on at some point next week .

Baz

Would only be able to make the w/ends really although works pretty busy at this time.

Weekends only for me too probably as away with work a lot in the near future and finding a free one at the moment is going to be trick too

If its a weekend then i'm in

Right guys, what about the 6th of July?

*Might* be here

I should be up for this, as i *should* be in training for a new job which means mon-fri 9-5

Can i get 2 runs cause im not putting any stress on the rollers?

Ross

Oi! - get your own Rolling Road Weekend!

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=560156#Post560156

Ross, I'll be doing two runs per car anyway.

Good.

I wanna change my throttle body after the first one to provide an accurate figure for how much it improves it

Ross

yeh july 6th would be ideal, whereabouts in aberdeen is it, is it at wallace performance

Yes.

Going on a weeks holiday on the 11th and using the car,bit of a distance to travel, don't think Ill chance it just in case as she would shoot me in the head if at the last moment the coupe felt unwell.

Soz lads

I'll give ya a lift up if you wanna come ronnie?

Ross

That awfully nice of you kind sir

Will get in contact nearer the time

I`ll need to check with the boss but I think I should be ok for the 6th .

Baz

Oops

It would appear that I'm double booked on the Sunday, or so the Mrs has just told me! We've got a works BBQ on the Sunday, so we'll need to move this.

Sorry, but it's clear I'm a fud!

What about the day before, Saturday the 5th?

Also good for me.

As above,need to check with the boss but I imagine it should be ok .

Baz

yeh sat is fine for me, will def be there

That date is fine with me as well

I'm a definite for the sat. Regardless of pending job change

Ross

As long as hes back at Anderston for 9pm


1st day on the job and all that

It`s all good for me now too as Kim was wanting go out with her friends to a a party. So i`m free to go .

Baz

Fccuk i just remembered i have a wedding to go to on the saturday..dammmmiiittt

oh wait..what time is this going to be? Weddings at 7.30pm..wonder if i can make it back in time

Im going to a party at night and i hope to be back on time.

Its only 2 hours to the deen.

Ross

Well that`s me all set with my new turbo,lambda sensor and front pipe on . Here`s hoping it`s still got as many horses as it left the factory with .

Baz

Any more guys?

i,ve just come across this where about in aberdeen
i come from that direction originally
this sounds good to me

Bridge of Don area, just up from MFI and B&Q.

braw

Im defo in as car fixed. How low are the rollers matt? Will i catch my lower strut brace?

Ross

?? I'm lost, is the yellow one back from the grave?

My one clears it, and B's did last year and he's lower than me I think.

Maybe he`s been up to some voodoo when he`s not been frequenting this forum as much .

Baz

A yellow car will show face

Ross

has he gone back to standard? surely not! I'm very confused

Matty u know the answer, your just not thinking!!

Ross

The yellow one reincarnated to a smaller scale..and somewhat boxier ...but get a feeling its still rapid though

Nah. Its only resemblance at the moment is its a fiat and its yellow...

Although i do have some "parts" that i have been tinkering with

Ross

You haven`t adapted Nigels lower brace to fit the Sei have you lol . The widest track Sei in Scotland .

Baz

Well it has got an adjustment on it..

Nah i've bought one for the sei... Its gonna sit far too low tho, so i'm not fitting it before the rollers.

Ross

Here's the address guys, for your sat nav or maps.

Wallace Performance
Unit 17+18
Murcar Commercial Park
Bridge of Don
Aberdeen
AB23 8JW

What time matty?

I'd like first run btw.

I'll heat the rollers up

Ross

Lol, 10am onwards - no rush.

Well I'd already planned to either run you first or last.

Any thoughts on food guys?

BBQ, as in the instant ones, or McD's which is about 2 mins away?

McD's is good for me and less hassle for anyone who would need to be in charge of the bbq

First would be good because i only want one run, then off to change some parts

Ross

Cool

McD`s is fine for me too .

Baz

eithers good for me had a bbq the other week which i cooked although folk werent sure whether it was a bit of charcoal or a burger they were being offered lol, will i have time to change a chip as want to compare standard chip and gtech

Yup, no problem.

Assuming I get back for Saturday I'll be there

Do we have a firm price yet - if so can I pay in Euros

£30 I'm told. Kick off at 10 am, although it'll take a while to get through all the cars so dont sweat it if you can't make it bang on 10.

Yup as Matt says, £30 each Coupé*.













*Triple that if you're a Seicento driver.

anyone have a spare prv they can lend me for the day when i put the gtec in lol, sorry bit of a cheek i know, as havent managed to get one, just running the standard ebv at the mo

Think I have one sitting in the car,your welcome to use it mate .

Baz

thanks, that would be really helpful, just want to see what it produces if i set it at 1.2bar as with the ebv and the gtec it seems to settle about 1.0 bar, probably need a prv or uprated ebv

OK guys that's enough cars now.

Looking foward to seeing everyone here.

Pity I've been away so much as if I'd thought about this we could of headed to mine afterwards for beer etc!. Its about 4 miles to my house I think from Wallace Performance, so not far either..doh!

U not gonna be back no? Still in holland?

Ross

Nope, back now

Kool.

Beers at Craigs everyone

Ross

kelv baz will have something for you so you better be there

U guys get back ok?

There was an accident on the m80, but i know my way around cumbernauld and avoided it, but it looked like a bad one, as the traffic was completely standstill.

Ross

Cheers for today Guys and good work Matty, not the best of results for me but better that I know so that I can get it sorted..hopefully

Edited to add: Doug realise I still owe you 50p....doh!

Couple of pics.. of my mean lean machine

Clicky
Clicky

first of all thanks to Matty, you worked like a young thing
i appreciate the advise you gave me, you also put up with my newbe questions spot on ;)...it was good to meet all the other guys as well, but i did feel a bit of an old git
by the way i was happy enough with my results/figures oh i didn't hit the magic number on the way home

Well that was a nice wee drive .

Got home around 8:30 after picking up a takeaway,now I could do with catching up on some sleep .

I had a really good day and was very pleased with my results ( Results Pg1 + Pg 2 . And as always it was nice to catch up the regulars and meet some newbies too.

Also a big thank you to Matty for getting this organised with his work. It`s a bit more relaxing to have someone who knows the Coop conducting the tests . I know that you and Ross said my fuelling was very good but I think i`ll resist the temptation to up the power (for now anyway ).

Here`s some pics and vids:-

Wallace Per4ormance

Tartandude and Doug20VT`s Coops

A load of Coops

The "Yellow Peril" among its big brothers

Kelv`s on the rollers

I took a couple of videos of my Coop on the rollers,nothing too exciting (but i`m glad about that )

Preparation

More preparation

First Run

I never got a vid of the second run as i was too busy watching what was going on .

Baz

Great pics and vids guys...will get mine sorted soon.

Yeah i'm shattered from today Was great to be there and meeting everyone again. Thanks to Matty for organising this and his attempt at sorting out my airbag light thingie

Not entirely satisfied with my results today but i'll keep trying. Now whose got a Gtec 2?

Looked liked you all had a good time


Soz I couldn't make it,sure there will be more R/R

Catcha all at the next one(fingers crossed)




C'mon the coupes

Same here, glad you guys had a good day and next time I might actually make it!!!

really enjoyed the day, thanks to matty for organising it and for all the advice, really helpful, and baz for the loan of your prv, and dont worry tartandude forget the 50p lol, cheers to ross for giving us a hand trying to set up the prv and for putting up with my terrible driving lol,look foward to seeing you all again at some point

Yes it was a good day, if slightly tiring for me

We'll need to organise one later in the year but get a few more numbers this time.

Thanks to everyone who came

Damn you Matty and Ross ! All the road home and all Sunday i`ve been mulling it over in my head whether or not to up the power on my Coop after the RR results .

I keep thinking 250bhp wouldn`t be bad as it`s not too extreme but then I start thinking why spoil my problem free running for extra power I probably don`t need .

I think i`ll sort out my suspension first and see how I feel after that .

Baz

DO IT

Don't do it Baz !!!!



You know what will happen !! + more

PICCYS

Some great Pics there Kelv!

Apologies for my boot being open in half of them though

Haha cheers craig..with your boot open it does look abit like a VW beetle!

Excellent photos Kelv,I think Siti should be the official FCCUK photographer for Scotland .

Baz

I agree, amazing photos.

Ok i'll let her know

Forgot to put up a pic..

Clicky

How could you have forgotten that one .

Baz

Engine still intact then Craig?

Just

I *think* we made progress tonight though .. I think

You dont have a clue what any of it means do you?

Thanks for that pic Craig

Whats happened then?

Ross

Not a sausage

@Ross - As you know the car was very lean on Saturday. I got a HF Gtech 1 from GrahamL and did another run on the rollers tonight with Matty. As I understand it the reading was worse

We then disconnected the battery for 15 minutes to reset the ECU again. Did another run and it was FAR better... but there seems to be something affecting the boost/torque which in turn is affect the fuelling, or the other way round..

Matty thinks it may be the PRV so Im getting a new one and while Im at it also changing to the uprated fuel pump, wiring mod and also fuel filter..just to be sure..

Once all this is fitted we'll get it stuck on the rollers again and see what it says..

Still only running around 0.9 bar of boost at the moment too so Sev's mini would have me at the moment

I won't be driving the car much in any case as Im away tomorrow for the weekend and the on holiday the week after

By "i think we made progress" i think he means Sir Matty chucked out the turbo to sort out this mysterious fueling issue!

Yes it was better in the end but still not right, however it is making good power for 0.9 bar.

It seems to be spooling up fine then for some reason it's losing boost, hence the low torque, but then builds it back up. The fueling is much better after the ECU reset however what concerns me is that a standard car is needing the high fueling chip. Voltage at the pump is fine on boost, and I'm not convinced it's the pump anyway as it richens up nicely at the top end. As Craig says a new PRV is on the way as the old one has seen better days.

We'll get there.

Same here , what did it make for at 0.9 bar in the end, I forgot

I think it made just under 216bhp.

Injectors?

Ross

Have you got any result list?

Well if no-one minds I can get them off the dyno PC tomorrow and put them up?

I dont mind. I made 264 bhp @ 1.1 bar (I'll forget the high boost run as that didn't really go to plan) and I forget what torque, something around 229 lb.ft I think.

I have no objections, I think I was around 220 but as the car was so lean it doesn't really matter. The next one will be the important one, hopefully

And now there is only one king of maxing out injectors.

I just think they weren't trying hard enough, I want 110% damnit...

Right guys, here we go:-

Kelv -

Power@wheels - 207.7bhp
Engine - 250.5bhp
Torque - 239.5 lbft

Baz -

Power@wheels - 188.0bhp
Engine - 220.1bhp
Torque - 215.4 lbft

Craig -

Power@wheels - 175.9bhp
Engine - 225.7bhp
Torque - 202.6 lbft

Doug -

Power@wheels - 180.7bhp
Engine - 207.9bhp
Torque - 238.9 lbft

Jim -

Power@wheels - 201.6bhp
Engine - 232.4bhp
Torque - 239.5 lbft

MattB -

Power@wheels - 235.8bhp
Engine - 274.2bhp
Torque - 247.2 lbft

Don't think I've missed anyone...

You missed out the wee seicento Matty

..and also your own car!..or are you just being nice not to embarrass our figures

Nice list. Can you add mods to each car Matty?

It's probably easier if each owner did that...

Me - GTi-R turbo, Gtec2 and some other supporting mods and somewhere between 1.2 and 1.3 bar depending what particular revs your at.

Mine:

GTiR Turbo
Chargecooler
Gtec 1
1.3 bar in every rev

MattB is my role model now so gonna get a gtec2

That reminds me, I can post that out to you now. Can you pm me your address please?

My Coop was just standard with the exception of a K&N cone filter and stainless steel straight through exhaust from the Cat back.

Standard Turbo,EBV,Cat and Chip,and that`s the way it`s gonna stay .

Baz

You need to get out more !

haha or i can say Kevcrab is my role model too....but i'll have to take my turbo out for that

You poor poor sod Kelv.

Im keeping quiet as my car didn't really show a true figure.. as running low boost. Which turned out to be just as well

It could be worse,he could have had Ross as his role model .

Baz

Been there done that

It was quite brief though..hmmmmm hahahaha

Just in the process of buying another turbo actually Kelv


2.5 turbo.......

diesel.......

170bhp

Does it float on water?

Definatly not


but it is a beast!!

Niceeeee!!

Love pickups. I used to drive a Ford Ranger back in Malaysia...don't think you get them here but they are Built like a tank and you can kill trees with it

New results this week:

294 bhp (259 wbhp), 266 lbft

Still not running enough boost though, apparently.

Hi boost Power
Hi boost Boost
Hi boost AFR

Lo boost Power
Lo boost Boost
Lo boost AFR

Stop spamming up this thread Matt

Who said that??

Very impressive figures there Matt

Matty, do you think my boost controller should be fine tuned to squeeze out more?

Possibly, what controller are you using again Kelv?

Its a greddy profec.

Ah that's right, it's in your drivers side vent and IIRC it was already turned up fairly high as I did have a wee look.

Have you got a link to your fuel, boost and power graph? If not then I'll just look at the PC tomorrow.

Yeah it is mucho high.

Sorry don't have access to a scanner at the moment and its only tuesday before i get back into the office.

New PRV now fitted and the car is holidng boost sooo much better..

Once Matty has some spare time I'll get the fuel filter/pump/wiring mod done and hopefully it'll be much better

Good to hear Craig what was wrong with the old prv? floppy spring?

new prv def makes a difference, i fitted one of japs this evening and the car has finally stopped over boosting, now goes straight to just over 1.1 bar and stays there until it starts to tail off

Don't know really, took it apart and it all looked okay but will let Matty have a look at it and see what he thinks

Im currently in Romania with work but left my car with Matty and it's much improved now

Will post up the graph if I can or Matty if you want to feel free