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TOTB X
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29/01/2011 23:13
29/01/2011 23:13
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Nigel
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The date for TOTB 2011 has been set - 30th and 31st July, at Elvington in Yorkshire
I know I've said this before, but this time I really mean it - I won't be entering
However, I don't mind helping out with organisation, so here we go (again) with the call for SERIOUS intentions to compete
Let's make it clear from the start - just entering this event takes a lot of effort, a fair bit of cash and a decent amount of skill. To show up in the top half of the results tables is really going some and takes a massive effort over an extended period of time.
You WILL need:-
Trackday tyres VERY good brakes At least 400bhp, preferably closing on 500bhp VERY stripped out Very good suspension Harnesses Lots of practice
Right - now I've tried to put you off, here's the deal - you have to show the Coupe Club organiser PROOF of a 12.99 or better quarter mile time, achieved on a recognised UK drag strip this year
If I'm organising it (Begbie - are you OK with this?) I'll be happy to help as much as I can, but I need genuine, serious intent.
Previous years have been littered with well-intentioned statements that they "will definitely be there", only for them all to fall by the wayside in the months leading up to the event. IMHO, only Leighton had a good excuse for not turning up.
So - who is up for it?
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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29/01/2011 23:19
29/01/2011 23:19
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Nobby
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I've got a good excuse* - my little un is due in late July * and my car isn't powerful enough
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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29/01/2011 23:21
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Why are you not doing it this year nigel? You need to get 1st spot back in the handling class?
Last edited by jonnybgt1759; 29/01/2011 23:26. Reason: didnt read it properly lol
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Re: TOTB X
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30/01/2011 01:13
30/01/2011 01:13
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Marco20valveT
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Not enough money to finish the engine, suspension is not good enough...
Good luck who ever goes for it!!!!
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Re: TOTB X
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30/01/2011 11:25
30/01/2011 11:25
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Why are you not doing it this year nigel? because I've done it for six consecutive years, and probably spent over £5k in the process The effort involved is becoming tiresome (it takes an entire day to strip the car down, and then three days [at least] to put it all back together again) Plus - the last time I launched the car in anger, I destroyed a gearbox and I simply cannot afford to do it again Finally - I wouldn't mind actually watching some cars - I reckon in the last six years, I've watched less than a dozen quarter miles - I'm always parked in the queue or waiting around for scrutineering etc
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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30/01/2011 11:50
30/01/2011 11:50
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I would lend you my seat and harness!!
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Re: TOTB X
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30/01/2011 12:41
30/01/2011 12:41
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I would lend you my seat and harness!! Thanks, but I won't be swayed - I simply can't afford to break the car again, and I know that once I'm on the startline, I wouldn't hold back
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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30/01/2011 18:57
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i will do it as long as my car is running well..when you say you do not have good enough suspension does that mean if i bought osravs i would not have good enough either? at this stage i still have not bought any
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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30/01/2011 20:13
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don't know what happened there! must have all blurred into one reading quickly ...anyway ...
i am serious and i will do it, i have a momo seat(though its tight and maybe swapped) and a couple of harnesses, a spare set of team dynamic 1.2 with dunlop max sport rb5's, i will have osrav front, avo rear , not sure about rest of the suspension set up but it will be 22ml rear arb ,seam welded sbframe if its a good idea? strut brace ,bottom brace,camber bolts,solid rears, polly bushed wishbone and drop links,along with having it properly set up..can you think of anything that may help?..as for power i should be good to run over 500 on track..what do you think?
would you be prepared to help me and teach me as much as i can absorb? i would be happy to pick you up and drive us to a trackday somewhere for some pointers ..i know you have an excellent track record (no pun intended) so i would think that a one on one would be more benificial than a million posts
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Re: TOTB X
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30/01/2011 20:21
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you could also help me find the best settings etc for the car as i have no experience..i am sure you will notice anything that needs changing or adding to the set up
i hadn't added brakes to the above for now all i have is very good discs and pads on refurbed calipers..i am trying to sort out a set of either gta or porsche and hopefully will have them by summer
all this of course depends on the car running well and the mapping being able to release its potential (which i am confident will be good)
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Re: TOTB X
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30/01/2011 20:25
30/01/2011 20:25
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You certainly appear to have all the right kit - you will need to make sure it's set up properly
With a top & bottom brace, I don't believe there's any need for a welded subframe, but I don't suppose it can do any harm
In my opinion, for a true track weapon, you'll need a stiffer rear ARB - 22mm is fine for spirited road driving and modest track work, but you'll still get understeer. 24mm will make it much more pointy, but you will get lift-off oversteer if you push it really hard. Mine gives some lift off oversteer with a 23mm ARB, but its very controllable
As for tuition, I've never provided it on any basis other than guiding my son round Curborough in his Punto. However, I'm happy to help as best I can, including coming out on a trackday with you.
Note that for TOTB, you must have two seats fitted, but some entries have a ridiculously minimal seat, such as a plastic karting seat
As for your tyres - sorry, they won't be allowed. Any tyre at TOTB has to carry a DOT mark, so you're going to be restricted to the normal road legal trackday tyres from Toyo, Yokohama, Dunlop etc
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1164019
30/01/2011 21:10
30/01/2011 21:10
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thanks ...i'm already looking forward to learning a new set of skills!... so it looks like i had better get on the group buy 24ml or try and do a trade of some sort..do you think with a 24ml a dedra front would be a good idea? whats the score with the eibach kit? i think barbz finds it a little imbalanced for his driving style though i could be wrong and will ask him later..if you have any experience with it i would like to hear
as soon as the car is all done and ready then ..though i have the sub 13 to do which the car will have no issue with lets hope the driver wont
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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30/01/2011 22:43
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Re: TOTB X
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#1164194
31/01/2011 11:09
31/01/2011 11:09
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If I'm organising it (Begbie - are you OK with this?) Fine by me, drop me a PM and I'll dig out the TOTB organisers email address
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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09/02/2011 14:30
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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10/02/2011 10:15
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No good for me then i'm on slicks now, damn!!!
Not that keen on the 1/4 mile stuff but i would like a bash at the handling circuit.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1169091
10/02/2011 10:23
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Your car has to be road legal anyway.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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10/02/2011 11:25
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Was the gobstopper taxed and mot'd???
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Re: TOTB X
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#1169130
10/02/2011 11:56
10/02/2011 11:56
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Was the gobstopper taxed and mot'd???
I rather doubt it - along with half the field at recent TOTB events, I think the organisers were just shown *any* logbook and MOT and they just turned a blind eye annoying really - TOTB has lost its original mantra of "finding the fastest road-legal cars in the UK" and its moved heavily towards "finding the jap rally slag that's had the most money thrown at it"
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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12/02/2011 23:45
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nigel just letting you know my intentions are still serious and i have now got a 24ml whiteline arb, osravs front and some as yet untried adjustable prototype rears that adjust via a dial so you can just reach under the rear arch! as i really can't be arsed taking them off everytime i want to go on a track (am keeping some koni rears though just in case i have to order the osrav rears and have to wait another 4 weeks as i have to for the fronts) anyway the car will be ready shortly so i take it my first objective will be to do a sub 13? do i need to enter? square anything with the club or anyone else?
Last edited by ktm450exc; 13/02/2011 01:37.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1170183
13/02/2011 00:52
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If my car is running well and if I manage to make it lighter I may compete this year
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Re: TOTB X
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13/02/2011 11:46
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so i take it my first objective will be to do a sub 13? do i need to enter? square anything with the club or anyone else? Yes - your first requirement is to post a PROVEN 12.99 or better (a 13.00 is too slow) Once you've done this, you will be allowed to enter - entry forms are usually made available in late Spring, so no need to worry just yet Begbie has OK'd me to take over the arrangements this year, so I'll be acting as Club rep - anything that you need to know, ask me Probably worthwhile registering for the Straightliners forum too - there's a TOTB section - go to http://www.straightliners-events.co.uk/forum/index.php
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1170501
13/02/2011 19:56
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whats my best option for tyres?
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Re: TOTB X
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13/02/2011 20:21
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whats my best option for tyres? Any of the top-brand trackday tyres should do... Toyo 888 Dunlop DZ03 Yokohama AO48 Bear in mind that the Yokos have soft sidewalls - good for launching, less good for cornering in such a front-heavy car as the Coupe
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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13/02/2011 22:19
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I have only ever ran Toyo t1r's that's probably why I get rubbish launches
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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13/02/2011 22:37
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Bear in mind that the Yokos have soft sidewalls - good for launching, less good for cornering in such a front-heavy car as the Coupe
That's strange that you found that, all the information on the web suggests they are the stiffest sidewalled out of all the trackday tyres? How long ago did you use the Yokos?
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Re: TOTB X
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14/02/2011 22:34
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How long ago did you use the Yokos? First used them in 2007, and had them for a couple of years They were definitely a lot softer sidewalled than the Dunlop DZ02 I also used In the end, I ran the Dunlops on the front and the Yokos on the back - gave a really good balance
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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14/02/2011 22:36
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BTW - I have half a tin (about 1/2 litre) of Grip tyre softener left from my last TOTB outing - if any TOTB entrant wants it, I'm happy to donate (although it can't be posted, due to the nature of the substance) - should be enough to do at least a pair of tyres, maybe even a full set
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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15/02/2011 04:40
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I will take that off you mate should help me out when trying to break leightons record
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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28/02/2011 19:02
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well, that's two months of the year gone already - can I have an update from anyone that intends to enter, as I will need to be speaking with the organisers pretty soon
Last edited by Nigel; 28/02/2011 19:03.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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18/03/2011 16:47
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I predict no Coops this year.
Not trolling, just seems to be following a similar pattern to previous years with posts of interest not backed up - and no Nigel flying the flag this time.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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18/03/2011 16:58
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Obviously been away from the forum for a while, but how many coops are there that COULD actually compete right now?
I'd always wanted to give this a go when I had my old one, but no chance i'd be looking at it anytime soon if I got another.
The thing is the 1/4 strips start running again this time of year and I reckon you'll need at least 2 visits to get the best time.
Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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18/03/2011 17:08
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I've just checked last year's TOTB thread - by mid-March 2010, we had nine people saying they would definitely be there, or would be trying to post a time. In the end, I was the only Coop to turn up, although Leighton had a decent excuse This year, we have just one remote possibility I reckon the forum has at least half a dozen cars that are capable of putting on a half-decent show on the straight stuff, and capable of a top-three place in the handling In all honesty, it's pointless hoping for any kind of a result on the quarter or the top speed run - the Vauxhall and Honda boys have it sewn up due to their prodigious power to weight combination (I doubt if any of them are over a tonne, with most closer to 750kg) However, for some reason, the Coupe's extra weight doesn't count against it round the handling circuit, resulting in good placings As I said at the top of this thread, I'm willing to do the organising, but not if there's no interest. If I don't get any REALLY encouraging noises from interested parties in the next few weeks, I'll be baling out and leaving you to it. Sorry, but I'm not busting a gut chasing people round when there's very little chance of it coming to anything.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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18/03/2011 17:13
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Leighton not gonna attempt this year?
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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26/03/2011 18:50
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Or no one has a car to do it at the moment.
It's a dam shame Nigel.
But sadly it needs to be plugged... Unless some one is going to step up.
But I doubt it,
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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04/04/2011 14:10
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i am still up for it.. my car is ready to be run in nearly so i will pick it up weekend and have it ready for mapping next week so in 2 to 3 weeks will be ready to try for the sub 13..i will do this as long as my car holds up ..i have kept my osrav fronts and prototype rears which are being fitted along with 24 mm rear arb, solid rear subframe bushses,pollybushed wishbones/droplinks,strut and lower brace,and my compbrake kit.. i am hoping to get some time with someone that can help me get a good set up from this though i know barbz is going to help me get it about right,from there i will have to suss out what works best for me.. as i say with help translating what i want from it to the set up is where i will need someones experience.. remember i have not yet driven on a tarmac track although i raced autograss as a teenager this is all new to me so i wont know a good set up from a bad one at first so need all the help i can get which i will be happy to accept from anyone i will also possibly need to borrow tyres as i have stripped myself to the bone financially to finnish this and i cant do it all ..i had to sell some of my bits including my track wheels and tyres but i will see if i can buy nearer the time to me this is just a practice for a serious assualt next year when i know the car better and have it set up as well as possible as well as adding bits to make it better..if the car is all i hope then its possible i can give them a run at the top speed also so if i can post a reasonable quarter you never know a coupe may do well overall one day i will be developing the car with a view to doing just that so any help in any guise will always be welcome
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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04/04/2011 14:12
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do i need any particular type of seat? seats? is it possible to use folding buckets? (still need to get kids in and out)
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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04/04/2011 15:07
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i'm sure someone with money to spare like johnny bravo will step in with tyres
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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05/04/2011 09:57
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KTM - why not just buy a set as your going to use them a lot!!!
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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05/04/2011 11:00
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marco ! i mentioned in the above post the fact i am struggling a little under the financial strain of it..i had to sell my track set up last week to pay for some of the bits needed to finnish off, then i have another 3 k or so to pay off my bill have the full system built and paid for friday,next week another £600 minimum for mapping plus hundreds for fuel running back and 2 to london on top of about 15k i have spent in the last 8 months...i am doing well just to get to totb especially as my racing season has started and i have just had to pay for my hybrid bike build...so you see i may need to borrow some even if i have to replace later as i can only do so much ..
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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05/04/2011 11:20
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sorry mate! didnt mean it any thing bad buy my last comment!!!
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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05/04/2011 12:36
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i know that mate ..just letting you know why i was posting the fact i may need to borrow..i would have much prefered to say nothing and just buy some.. but i will struggle to do it thats fact and it may come to me using crap or road tyres and just using the day as lesson in what to do next time..it is going to be that to some degree anyway more so without descent tyres..we will have to wait and see though
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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18/04/2011 12:35
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well i am still in could you just contact them to tell them one car is entering and i will do whats needed
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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22/04/2011 13:28
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early may i will be 1/4 miling somewhere ..i am still running it in... we are going to do a tuning day and will be trying to get the best set up..on that subject what setting did you find best on the road and track with your osravs? .. as yet its not mapped so i have a lot to do.. i have my brakes to fit and a couple of other things but i will be fully finnished within a month and still intend to run the car (if i can qualify) i know i will not be competetive but i will know exactly what i need to do for next years which i will be trying hard to do well at as i have said before this years is just a learning experience
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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22/04/2011 17:55
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cheers.. i am only running the fronts though i have some prototype rears that seem excellent, ..they adjust via a knob under the rear arch i bought the ones with just harder or softer adjustment though they do them with twin tubes and 2 knobs for bump and rebound but as i know from my bikes you can drive yourself nuts trying to get them right so i kept it simple..which side is fully soft for the fronts is it anti clockwise all the way untill it stops? i havent seen any instructions or leaflets as the boxes have been used and i suspect they were in them
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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04/05/2011 00:29
04/05/2011 00:29
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Dave_Naxton
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Would like guys like to make a club presence at this years TOTB 10.
I am one of the main organisers for this event and would love to see a Fiat Coupe club stand
Club stands are free and I can also offer you discounted spectator tickets
Regards Dave Naxton
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Re: TOTB X
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04/05/2011 00:29
04/05/2011 00:29
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Dave_Naxton
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Here is a brief run down of what is going to happen over the weekend
TOTB X is a full on two day event with evening entertainment
New for this milestone tenth event is the TOTB bootcamp on Saturday the 30th this is where the next generation of competitors can come along and experience this unique event for them selves at a cost of just £75 for the full day its better value than any currant track day
Saturday also sees the TOTB competitors on track doing there final prep for the big day
Saturday night we have the big marquee from UK Bars and the top band Strangebrew entry is free and open to all campers and competitors
New for the big day on Sunday is the Top speed viewing area set adjacent to the kilometre boards this area with its own vintage shuttle bus running spectators up to view the top speed action will the cars hit the 200mph barrier this year some where close at TOTB IX
Also new for Sunday we have Helicopter flights taking off adjacent to the top speed viewing area at just £25 per flight Spectators can go up and see the event from the air and marvel at this vast airfield from above
The handling circuit will have three big time shoot outs at TOTB X Handling circuit drivers are allowed 5 timed runs from 10.30 untill 2.30 then the top 5 in each class will get 2 more runs to find the top two drivers who will then go into the finals for each class there will be awards for the top driver in each class as well as the overall winner and points will be awarded accordingly
Regards Dave Naxton
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234115
04/07/2011 22:06
04/07/2011 22:06
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ktm450exc
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nigel do you know if can i still enter totb? i always intended to run if i had a car capable and it's been really touch and go with that but i think we have a solution which will allow me to run over 500bhp at least untill i have had a manifold built to my own spec( i don't think it will be ready in time)..i am trying to find a 1/4 mile day where i can set a time asap i am sure with a over 500 i can do it so is it worth my last minute rushing round?
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Re: TOTB X
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05/07/2011 00:32
05/07/2011 00:32
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nigel do you know if can i still enter totb? Almost certainly not - the deadline has passed
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234221
05/07/2011 01:42
05/07/2011 01:42
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ktm450exc
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who would be the best person to try and speak with? i have nothing to lose by explaining the situation
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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05/07/2011 11:54
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ktm450exc
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no probs i'm in
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05/07/2011 11:55
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Marco20valveT
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GO ON KTM!!!
good luck mate!
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234301
05/07/2011 11:58
05/07/2011 11:58
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ktm450exc
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shame i can't run the cars full potential as still no manifold but subject to mapping i think i will have(never being one for sticking my neck out of course) 500
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234317
05/07/2011 12:22
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h2ypr
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Anyone going to TOTB this year?
Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234417
05/07/2011 16:41
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ktm450exc
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only me and barbz that i know of and thats if my final mapping doesn't cause an issue
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05/07/2011 18:30
05/07/2011 18:30
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roly
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Anyone going to TOTB this year?
Ross Last year was the first one I've missed since early days but the viewing gallery for the high speed run has got me keen again, so I'll be there again with a mate. You coming down Ross? Might bump into you there ktm - is Barbz running or spectating?
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234621
06/07/2011 00:56
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ktm450exc
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barbz will be spannering and helping me i think, though in truth he would likely do a better job as he is so much more experienced.... i am just getting a feel for it ready for a more serious attempt next year .. i still haven't driven on a track yet! it's all very last minute as well so no practice as yet,the cars not set up and i have no idea what works best for me or even how i like the car! as yet i haven't even adjusted my suspension its still as it came out of the packet.. but we have a stonking engine with a massive power spread full boost around 3k with standard manifold! all the way to 8k be nice to meet you there though come over and make yourself known!
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Re: TOTB X
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06/07/2011 09:03
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h2ypr
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Anyone going to TOTB this year?
Ross You coming down Ross? I dunno mate. I might be working that weekend, but maybe not the sunday. So i'll see how im placed nearer the time. Ross
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Re: TOTB X
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#1234660
06/07/2011 09:15
06/07/2011 09:15
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barbz will be spannering and helping me i think, though in truth he would likely do a better job as he is so much more experienced.... i am just getting a feel for it ready for a more serious attempt next year .. as much as i'd love to see Barbz go sick in your car i would say for the experience go for it KTM, you have nothing to lose and all to gain!! depending on dates ect i will try to come down to support and also get a look at what is going on! be nice to meet a few of you guys!
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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06/07/2011 12:14
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depending on dates ect i will try to come down to support and also get a look at what is going on! Knowing you Marco, you won't go because you will see how far away it is, and in your case, 170 miles and 3 hours 8 min drive
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Begbie]
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06/07/2011 13:19
06/07/2011 13:19
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h2ypr
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depending on dates ect i will try to come down to support and also get a look at what is going on! Knowing you Marco, you won't go because you will see how far away it is, and in your case, 170 miles and 3 hours 8 min drive I think its over 200 miles for us glaswegians!!! Ross
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Re: TOTB X
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#1234764
06/07/2011 13:31
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depending on dates ect i will try to come down to support and also get a look at what is going on! Knowing you Marco, you won't go because you will see how far away it is, and in your case, 170 miles and 3 hours 8 min drive why dont you come with me then? drive to mine, then i will do the rest.... yer?
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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06/07/2011 13:56
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I didn't go last year but might think about it this year if a few folk are meeting up the night before for a few beers.
Death-rattle-tastic
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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06/07/2011 14:50
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h2ypr
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Would you wanna drive to mine and jump down with me ?
Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234815
06/07/2011 15:56
06/07/2011 15:56
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ktm450exc
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anyone got a pair of suitable tyres with an event left in them? 16 or 17 ..i don't have any now had to sell mine to carry on with the project so i have to borrow or buy second hand as it's already costing more than i can afford to get it ready and run the event..i don't want to run the cheapo road tyres i have on if i can help it
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Re: TOTB X
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#1234817
06/07/2011 16:04
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eldinho
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Track tyres with only enough tread for TOTB are likely to be illegal, and they won't let you run with them.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234830
06/07/2011 16:55
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Marco20valveT
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i may have 2 17" R888's for sale...
will no in a few days!
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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06/07/2011 17:09
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ktm450exc
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that would be handy marco..i know i cant run track tyres but dot marked like the triple 8s would be ok
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1234840
06/07/2011 17:12
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Marco20valveT
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cool, will let you know when i have them off my rims!
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Re: TOTB X
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11/07/2011 17:50
11/07/2011 17:50
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Just a note - you can turn up to TOTB with *just* legal tyres, do a couple of standing quarters, five one-minute runs on the handling circuit and find that your tyres are very illegal afterwards Take a look at this Youtube video - look closely at my nearside tyres at 16 - 18 seconds and you'll see what appears to be dust being kicked out - it isn't - it's the tyres being ripped to shreds
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1236523
11/07/2011 18:27
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Marco20valveT
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dam i need to make my car faster so it can go back to what once was the fastist sprinty
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1242238
27/07/2011 16:41
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anthrax
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Anyone coming as a spectator ?
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Re: TOTB X
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27/07/2011 17:00
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Re: TOTB X
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27/07/2011 17:07
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Re: TOTB X
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27/07/2011 18:33
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h2ypr
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I was considering going, but its a lot of petrol and I'm out the night before it, so hope whoevers going enjoy's it and take some photos/videos!!
Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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30/07/2011 00:11
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ktm450exc
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can't believe i am saying this after all the time and effort but right at the last minute after getting it all up and running and very very quick (probably too quick) it seems the ecu (which has been sat on floor with all wiring under mat untill all finnished) has been shorted somewhere throwing everything into turmoil and i can not get down with a trailer and get it to a mapper (even if i could get a last minute booking) to work it out.. so thats me out and absolutley gutted..i knew we were pushing it but to get so near is just pants! all the excitement then nerves then more excitement has sent me greyer for sure...but we tried our hardest..my appologies to the forum for not being able to do it..in the words of steve greenauld (mapper) and i suspect many others "thats hard core tuning for you"
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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31/07/2011 15:45
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Didn't miss much lads.
Apart from Andy Forrest running a magnificent 9.48 on his first run, the trusty Granada and a few spirited efforts in a longer handling circuit, not much going on.
Fair play to the organisers for making an effort with a bus to the top speed run, helicopter rides etc, but crowds and competitor numbers down. On the plus side, the lack of queues for the quarter mile/top speed run mean if you can hit the times needed you'd have got plenty of runs in for your £100 in front of a reasonable crowd.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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31/07/2011 16:14
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It was always a bit of a funny decision to run it on the same weekend a Time Attack round was taking place.
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Re: TOTB X
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31/07/2011 16:17
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Aye, we were saying that earlier - must have impacted on the crowd. To be fair to TOTB though, it's always been last weekend in July.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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31/07/2011 19:03
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I reckon they were struggling for competitor entries this year - the closing date was extended several times and they were still taking entries up until mid last week Unless they change something, I reckon it's going to die in the next year or two - it's basically lost its universal appeal and now its just about a handful of Jap 4WD cars going extremely fast after spending a huge amount of cash It's stuff like the Granada that made it interesting, but this is now the exception, rather than the rule
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Re: TOTB X
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#1243738
31/07/2011 19:11
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Typical the one time i cant make it theres not many there. I have said this for the last 3 years but next year i WILL be there.
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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31/07/2011 20:19
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I reckon they were struggling for competitor entries this year - the closing date was extended several times and they were still taking entries up until mid last week Unless they change something, I reckon it's going to die in the next year or two - it's basically lost its universal appeal and now its just about a handful of Jap 4WD cars going extremely fast after spending a huge amount of cash It's stuff like the Granada that made it interesting, but this is now the exception, rather than the rule Hard to argue with this Nigel - no list of competitors in the programme backs this up too. After 40 minutes (and seeing the same Evo make about four runs) the action dried up on the quarter mile. Unthinkable a few years ago when the queues went on for ever and crowds flocked around open bonnets as you well remember...
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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01/08/2011 09:49
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Of dear - just been on the TOTB site to check the results - I've also had a check round some of the other forums to see what people thought All I can say is I'm glad I didn't spend the money and petrol to drive up there EDIT - numbers changed from the first entry I made half an hour ago - found the official results FWD Top speed - 2 entries Quarters - 17 entries handling - 4 entries RWD Top Speed - 9 entries Quarters - 13 entries Handling - 10 entries 4WD Top Speed - 33 entries Quarters - 48 entries Handling - 36 entries the event has clearly turned into a jap rally slag 4WD drag event - there was just ONE non-jap car in the 4WD class (a 911) and even in the RWD class, more than half the field was jap. If that's how the event set out to be, then it's a resounding success, but I have a feeling that this was never on the original plan. From what I've read on other forums, there were far too few cars competing, far to few cars actually running and nothing exciting to watch (once you've seen one ten second Impreza/Evo you've seen them all?) Apparently, the few competitors that did a lot of running were going up the strip, coming back round and straight onto the startline again - no queues at all The problem the organisers will have now is that the crowds will stay away next year, even if the competitors come back Shame, but not surprising
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1243884
01/08/2011 10:19
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h2ypr
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I think tbh Nigel, there is another way to look at this. Think of all the competition the coupe has had in previous years, now would be the best time to get 3 strong coupe's to enter. Supposedly, due to flea maps, we have circa 10 coupes over 350bhp, which should be plenty to get into the 12's and try and hit the top speed. Then just need someone who's good on the handling (wonder who Nigel ) and the coupe's could potentially take a clean sweep of the FWD? Do we have winners times for FWD on 1/4 mile, top speed and handling? Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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01/08/2011 10:45
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Wow. I retract my above comments. 11.26 is UBER fast for FWD. 166 is a potential to beat, but to travel all that way and then carry all your spares, plus remove an interior, doesn't seem worth it right enough. Why don't we arrange a coupe shootout? Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1243908
01/08/2011 11:35
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I presume the Vaux Tigra wasn't running as he get's into the 10's and has a stupidly high top speed as well.
Coupe shootout, I did look into this a while back, it won't be cheap.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Begbie]
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01/08/2011 12:46
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h2ypr
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Coupe shootout, I did look into this a while back, it won't be cheap.
Could we extend this to Fiat shootout, get a few more owners clubs onboard to reduce the cost? Ross
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1243944
01/08/2011 12:51
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Cheers Nigel, couldn't remember the name. Looks like it did a fair amount of damage there Ross, hiring a runway for a day is approx £5k, who is going to front that money upfront? Then you need to have timing equipment, liability insurance etc..
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
#1243960
01/08/2011 13:14
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TBH, if you want a HUGELY entertaining day out with a bunch of Coupe owners, Curborough is the place
£500 covers the circuit hire and up to 25 cars can have a whole day out shredding tyres and getting all competitive ( as well as learning their car's limits in relative safety)
About time we did another? agree with you there Nigel! great day out, relativly cheap, plus i want to bring the GTA there and see what it can do
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Re: TOTB X
[Re: Nigel]
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01/08/2011 19:00
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£90 each gets you brands hatch indy all day with a open pit lane
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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